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To: A Navy Vet
Ok, I can see you're in full-mockery mode. I'm reluctant to hit back in kind, because I have a son who is a Navy vet myself.

But it needs to be said that there should be room for serious discussion and disagreement on this topic. FReepers of all people should know better than to be un-skeptical of much of the so-called "settled science" that is out there.

Not everyone who is concerned about the effects of exposure to wifi is deserving of tin-foil hat ridicule. There's good reason to be skeptical of proclamations that this kind of radiation is completely harmless, as some have done here.

And likewise, not every engineer who comments on a thread has enough data -or enough expertise (in fields such as public health, for example)- to make pronouncements of harmlessness with such certainty.

63 posted on 01/31/2017 9:42:33 AM PST by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: shhrubbery!
"Not everyone who is concerned about the effects of exposure to wifi is deserving of tin-foil hat ridicule. There's good reason to be skeptical of proclamations that this kind of radiation is completely harmless, as some have done here. And likewise, not every engineer who comments on a thread has enough data -or enough expertise (in fields such as public health, for example)- to make pronouncements of harmlessness with such certainty."

Yes, I shouldn't have mocked, I apologize. However, Engineers don't have to be "health experts" to know the affects of EMR throughout the spectrum.

Think sir, has there ever been a case proven that with today's radiation health professionals no one has died in 77 years since radio/tv EMR has been around? Go further back with Edison (died at 84) and Tesla (died at 87) and their electric inventions that emitted strong EMR. Don't bother with x-rays, all accept too much is bad.

Feel free to not believe the Engineers on this board - they are anonymous posters. Do your research regarding EMR and what is ionizing and non-ionizing and at what strength (wattage) non-ionizing EM can be damaging...it's soley in the heat spectrum and not radio spectrum. I researched and found that other than some conspiracy blogs, the above engineers were correct.

People will claim they get headaches and other symptoms from using their phones next to their heads. There has been NO cause and effect studies to prove such. People get headaches and/or cancer from countless causes. Causality has been distorted over the years. Why do you think the ambulance-chasers on TV have so many ads for so many devices/treatments? Because they know they can always argue causality in poorly conducted studies.

I'm 67 and remember the new Ice Age, Ozone depletion, DDT, Nature vs Nurture, Alacar scare, etc. So I'm not always a fan of scientific theory. However, while scientists don't understand the nature of EM waves, they have done countless tests/studies regarding their affect on living organisms. I also remember the warnings of sitting to close to television sets in the 50s and 60s. It would ruin your eyes and the radiation could make you sterile. I have 4 perfectly healthy grand-children.

Again, non-ionizing wave lengths have NO impact on the human body unless in the IR/Micro-wave spectrum that will heat tissue. Unlike global warming theory, this is truly settled science. You can always throw your cell phone away and use a land line. But then if it's plugged into an outlet for messages, you're probably getting a low dose of EMR. Also, stay out of the sunlight (photons are deadly). Good luck and please take this as humor. That's how it's meant.

72 posted on 01/31/2017 11:27:32 AM PST by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: shhrubbery!
" I have a son who is a Navy vet..."

Sorry, I missed that. Good for your son and good for you for raising a son that would defend his homeland.

73 posted on 01/31/2017 11:29:35 AM PST by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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