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Flashing a peace sign in a photo could lead to identity theft
www.DPReview.com ^ | Jan 17, 2017 | Lars Rehm

Posted on 01/22/2017 3:35:16 AM PST by fso301

The National Institute of Informatics (NII) in Japan claims that taking and publishing photos of subjects who are flashing the popular two-fingered 'V' or peace sign could lead to identify theft. It warns that fingerprint recognition technology is now so advanced that even casual snapshots can be used to retrieve fingerprint information. The report also says the technology is widely available and easy to use.

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To: Vendome

Does that show GPS?


21 posted on 01/22/2017 4:42:58 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: fso301

OK, from now I will only give the one finger salute.


22 posted on 01/22/2017 4:43:37 AM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Texas Fossil

Yes.

You can modify or delete.

A few years back I was using a phone and hadn’t gone through settings to turn off gps.

Discovered my mistake and used a batch command to remove gps from the photos.


23 posted on 01/22/2017 4:49:14 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Vendome

It is my understanding that the GPS meta data is not with the photo settings and related data.

When I looked at the photos a few days ago, I saw nothing but the GPS data version. Not convinced, I downloaded a Linux command line tool for batch processing. Found that the data was in fact not on my photos.

Over the years, I’ve become much more concerned about this type of issue. Technology can be used for good or bad. It is so prevalent that it is frightening.

Found it, here it is, the command line tool that I used years ago to clean up image data in windows. It’s “Jhead” http://www.sentex.net/~mwandel/jhead/usage.html


24 posted on 01/22/2017 4:59:53 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Red in Blue PA

Mechanic’s gloves are cheap at local parts houses.


25 posted on 01/22/2017 5:09:59 AM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: fso301

Fake news.

No way are lighting levels sufficient to illuminate whorls on the finger in any normal photo.


26 posted on 01/22/2017 5:24:35 AM PST by Flick Lives (Les Deplorables Triumphant)
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To: fso301

lesson for peace sign flashers: don’t do that


27 posted on 01/22/2017 5:28:37 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: fso301

That is amazing.


28 posted on 01/22/2017 5:32:31 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: fso301

A certain amount of resolution is needed. The casual photo just won’t do it.


29 posted on 01/22/2017 5:50:34 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: fso301

Then the camera would get the fingernail.
= = = = = = = = =

NOT the one over your shoulder.......


30 posted on 01/22/2017 6:15:48 AM PST by xrmusn ((6/98)" "If you see a civilian in cammies -- bump into him")
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To: fso301

Any picture taken of Japanese kids will include lots of peace signs. It is like they are hard-wired for it. Camera? Smile and flash peace sign, so no wonder the Japanese are concerned.


31 posted on 01/22/2017 6:27:28 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: Vendome
What would one actually do with the fingerprints?

According to Adam, nothing...

Adam Ruins Everything - Why Fingerprinting Is Flawed

32 posted on 01/22/2017 6:58:06 AM PST by C210N
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To: metmom; I want the USA back
I did a quick calculation to see how reasonable this idea is, and was surprised by the result.

The resolution of the iPhone 7's wide-angle camera is approximately 4600x2600 pixels with a field-of-view of about 63 degrees width; this translates to an angular resolution of about 240 microradians per pixel.

It's surprisingly difficult to find hard numbers giving the distance between fingerprint ridges and grooves, but I was able to come up with a estimate of 0.05 mm (50 microns) for the closest spacing after some looking.

At one meter distance, this is 50000 microradians per pixel, which means that at distance of one meter, the iPhone wide-angle camera can put almost 210 pixels on each pair of ridges!

This makes the article's claim believable, although getting enough contrast on a fingertip to pick up individual ridges and grooves is questionable; with optical contrast only (no ink or surface-contact effects) a great deal of dynamic range would be required to obtain a fingerprint of sufficient quality to do personal identification.

Still, it's only a matter of time before this is possible.

33 posted on 01/22/2017 7:03:55 AM PST by Steely Tom (Liberals think in propaganda)
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To: metmom; I want the USA back

Sorry, that calculation was way off. When I looked at my write-up on the screen, it just didn’t look right.

Looks like I’m off by a factor of a thousand (swapped meters for millimeters at one point).

It’s actually 0.21 pixels per ridge spacing at one meter, which puts it out of reach of the iPhone 7 camera. Way out of reach, even if you don’t count the dynamic range issue.

I should have double-checked.


34 posted on 01/22/2017 7:10:30 AM PST by Steely Tom (Liberals think in propaganda)
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To: cynwoody

ORLY, https://www.wired.com/2011/05/camera-reads-fingerprints-from-a-distance-in-seconds/


35 posted on 01/22/2017 7:47:12 AM PST by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998 (------->VMFA 235 '69-'72 KMCAS <------- "Death Angels")
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To: cynwoody

From twenty feet away: http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Fingerprint-Scanner-idair-airprint-security,news-15643.html heh heh


36 posted on 01/22/2017 7:48:40 AM PST by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998 (------->VMFA 235 '69-'72 KMCAS <------- "Death Angels")
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To: Texas Fossil

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Fingerprint-Scanner-idair-airprint-security,news-15643.html


37 posted on 01/22/2017 7:49:36 AM PST by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998 (------->VMFA 235 '69-'72 KMCAS <------- "Death Angels")
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To: wally_bert

But what about your FACE? HAHAHA


38 posted on 01/22/2017 7:50:24 AM PST by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998 (------->VMFA 235 '69-'72 KMCAS <------- "Death Angels")
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To: fso301

So when playing Rock Paper Scissors, never do Scissors.


39 posted on 01/22/2017 7:50:29 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Steely Tom

If they can get a crystal clear picture of finger prints then why the heck can’t they get half decent not so blurry youtubes?

Today it’s finger prints and facial recognition, tomorrow it’s irises. Might as well submit to burkas.


40 posted on 01/22/2017 8:02:50 AM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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