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To: SandwicheGuy; fireman15

Fireman felt the need to insult me and imply that I’m a rookie compared to his vast knowledge, hahahaha. Kind of cracked me up because I’ve owned personal computers for 40 years or so now. Used them on my jobs too for over 30 years as a machinist.

My first personal, hobby computer was a TRS-80 back in the 70s. I went all through the Commodore 64 years and learned to program in basic fairly good on those. I was very early into DOS and the very first windows machines. Have always kept upgraded and stayed ‘cutting edge’ so to speak.

Fireman implied that I don’t know what I’m doing when he’s the one who has a laptop sitting in a drawer that he doesn’t know what to do with. I’m laughing right now just thinking about that.

I’m very happy with win 10 and It’s an improvement even over Win 7 which I also loved.


18 posted on 01/18/2017 1:03:52 AM PST by Bullish (May as well just rename Hollywood---> Hypocrite city)
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To: Bullish
I’m very happy with win 10 and It’s an improvement even over Win 7 which I also loved.

Windows 7 was really good, it was the last of the DOS machines, the ones with legacy code. So smooth and lovely. I tweaked mine over the course of time until it opened and closed so fast.

Then upgraded to 10, and it beat my go-fast machine out of the box. Never looked back. The secret seems to be a clean install, but nobody want to back up. Now with GDrive and DropBox, there is no excuse not to do a clean install, just synch your data and do it clean. I've had a little trouble with two upgrades.... most went well, but, clean is better. Those bitter clingers not willing to let go of their Lotus Notes and such, well, the Model A was a good car but no one drives on cross country. YouTube has so many videos of how to install Win10, there is no excuse not to, now you don't even have to hire someone to do it.

20 posted on 01/18/2017 1:52:24 AM PST by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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To: Bullish

The problem with Windows 10 is the Telemetry spy ware.

http://www.digitalpete.com/Remove-Microsoft-Telemetry-Keyloggers-and-Spyware-from-Windows-10.html

http://www.techworm.net/2014/10/microsofts-windows-10-permission-watch-every-move.html

http://www.zdnet.com/article/is-windows-10-telemetry-a-threat-to-your-personal-privacy/

Get rid of that and you would have a good system.

With it, and you may as well have the doors to your house wide open, day and night through out the year.


25 posted on 01/18/2017 5:14:47 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Bullish; SandwicheGuy
Thanks for the insults asswipe. I’ll remember that.

Mr. Bull, you appear to be a thin skinned precious little snow flake aren't you? And I am sure that you do have a long memory. We are talking about an OS here not the future of the Republic. You are the one who picked the pseudonym Bullish??? Not me. Ha, ha, ha!!! You didn't figure someone would come up with Mr. Bull from that? How adorable!

Fireman felt the need to insult me and imply that I’m a rookie compared to his vast knowledge, hahahaha.

Kind of a reach? And how did I insult you? By pointing out you are acting as a Microsoft shill, trying to improve the image of the disaster that is Windows 10??? I have been a Microsoft booster for decades, up until they tried to force Windows 10 down my throat. I have actually met come into contact with both Steve Ballmer and Paul Allen because of interests outside of computing. And living on the East side of King County I have countless friends and associates who are former and current Microsoft employees. You do not seem to have an understanding of the transition that Microsoft is trying to make with Windows 10.

Fireman implied that I don’t know what I’m doing when he’s the one who has a laptop sitting in a drawer that he doesn’t know what to do with.

And I didn't imply anything. I have a spare hard drive with the Windows 10 operating system installed on it in a drawer for my “primary laptop”, not my “primary laptop”. By drawing the conclusion that I had the laptop that I am typing on right now in a drawer somewhere you make all the implications without any help from me. I guess you didn't realize that someone can swap the hard drives out of them thangs. But the fact I stirred you and SandwicheGuy up enough that you were up at 2:30 in the morning posting about me indicates that you two are taking this all too seriously.

But lets get back to common ground, we are all friends and it sounds like we have similar histories when it comes to computer experience. I have been a computer enthusiast since before “home computers” became available. My first introduction was a digital electronic experimentation kit, that controlled a two digit LED Display. This was before electronic calculators had become affordable. It was given to me by my 5th grade teacher who was impressed that I had taught myself how to use a slide rule, and by my inquisitive nature and the fact that I was already reading at the 10th grade level. So when the rest of the class was focused on subjects that I had picked up on my own, he let me tinker with the "digital electronic experimentation kit". It helped to keep me from being bored and disruptive and I learned much from it.

I still have a couple TRS-80s in my basement, along with the first XT Clone that I put together, Commodore 64s, VIC 20s, TI-99-4As, a Timex Sinclair, a couple Atari home computers, a Spectravideo SV-328 which was the machine that the failed MSX (Microsoft X) Standard was based on... I have a large assortment of tape players, drives and expansion boxes for these as well. Believe it or not this hardware has actually become fairly valuable again. About the only hardware I do not have “vintage computer museum” is any overpriced Apple junk which I have shunned since the beginning.

And I have always been interested in machine work, and did work as a millwright for 8 years in a family owned business. But the only piece of CNC equipment that I have directly used with a Windows computer is my 3D Printer. Although I have gotten fairly good at using Windows based software to build 3D models. My favorite software package for this are currently Autodesk Fusion 360, and Autodesk 123D Design which both work fine with Windows 10. But I have other drawing and design software and hardware which will not work with Windows 10 which is one of the reasons I choose not to use it right now.

As far as calling people who prefer email programs such as Windows Live Mail which have the capability to store their files locally “luddites”??? I think the two of you are out on a limb with that as well. There are many legitimate security concerns with “cloud based storage solutions” and they are not going away. This is regardless of whatever security enhancements Microsoft comes up with for Windows 10. The only time a storage device is truly secure is when it is not connected to a computer that has an internet connection and it is locked in a safe.

So lighten up you two, life is too short. Any generalizations that I make are not directed at either of you specifically as insults or otherwise. I think that both of you are very interesting characters and enjoy reading your posts.

32 posted on 01/18/2017 10:02:17 AM PST by fireman15 (How many illegal aliens voted for Hillary in CA and NY alone?)
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