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Russian Cyberattacks 'Sloppy' Compared to What's Next (Revealing)
Tom's Guide ^ | Jan 16, 2017 | PAUL WAGENSEIL

Posted on 01/16/2017 3:47:59 PM PST by Hostage

The Russian hacks of the Democratic National Committee might have gone unnoticed if one of the two attacking groups hadn't made so much "noise," a security expert told the ShmooCon hacker conference here yesterday (Jan. 15).

Because that group, dubbed Fancy Bear or APT 28, was so sloppy, it was caught within a few weeks, said Toni Gidwani, director of research operations at Arlingon, Virginia, cybersecurity firm ThreatConnect. The subsequent investigation led to the discovery of a year-old, continuing penetration of the DNC's servers by a rival Russian group, called Cozy Bear or APT 29, that had previously gone undetected.

The self-identified Romanian hacktivist who called himself Guccifer 2.0, who took responsibility for the DNC attacks, was simply a rushed attempt by Fancy Bear to deflect suspicion from both groups, Gidwani said.

Yet because what appears to have been an overall Russian attempt to influence the U.S. presidential election apparently succeeded, and because both Russian groups are still actively competing with one another, she said, we can expect such large-scale Russian cyberattacks upon American targets to only continue.

Fancy Bear is thought to be run by the GRU, Russia's military intelligence service. It has conducted rather brutal cyberattacks upon a French TV station, the German parliament and even the White House.

Cozy Bear is thought to be run by either the SVR, Russia's foreign intelligence service, or the FSB, its domestic intelligence service. It has attacked the Pentagon as well as diplomatic and governmental institutions in many countries, but its methods are quiet and stealthy and focus on information gathering.

Yet neither group seemed to be aware that the other had also penetrated the DNC's servers. "That may seem absurd to Western intelligence agencies," Gidwani said, "but the Russians have a competitive dynamic within their own intelligence community."

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: elections; hacking; russians
Revealing because it shows how vacuous the evidence is and yet this technology review site feels it necessary to discharge this political sewage into the notification fields of its readership.

I can safely say the deficient writers of 'Tom's Guide' do not have the right stuff to participate in Making America Great Again. Tom's Guide would better be suited operated from a flat on the outskirts of London, Toronto or anywhere in a garage or camper along the coast of California.

Toni Gidwani, remember the name. security expert, SchmooCon, what rot! The specter of amateurism masquerading as professionalism is embarrassing and shameful. I will be pulling my notification permission but wanted to pass this on to inform of just how widely the false Russian hacking meme has spread.

.... director of research operations at Arlingon < sic >, Virginia, cybersecurity firm ThreatConnect.

A Beltway Bandit, of course.

Worthy Question: who's been paying these knuckleheads?

1 posted on 01/16/2017 3:47:59 PM PST by Hostage
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To: Hostage

Sounds more like two different sets of Russian teenagers in the mom’s basement


2 posted on 01/16/2017 3:53:20 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Hostage

Ho Hum, more Urine Gate Hacking Fake news!


3 posted on 01/16/2017 3:56:54 PM PST by Grampa Dave (HoThe deadliest Islamic terror cell America has ever faced is leaving office, 20 Jan 2017!)
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To: Hostage

EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE was using Hitlerly’s SERVER!

Podesta ADMITTED giving out his passwords!! to a dufus phishing scheme!

Who needs hackers? when Hitlerly will sell you Americas secrets for a $$price!

And John Brennan ADMITS to Voting for ... the communist party USA!!- so the CIA chief has probably sold us down the river too-

ALL of this hubbub is probably because none of these traitors will be getting any more kickbacks for a while


4 posted on 01/16/2017 4:02:35 PM PST by mj1234
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To: mj1234

It was actually an Iranian using a computer in Russia to hack with to make Russia look bad so hilary could win.


5 posted on 01/16/2017 4:04:17 PM PST by oldasrocks (rump)
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To: Hostage
Yet because what appears to have been an overall Russian attempt to influence the U.S. presidential election apparently succeeded,

Oh please, give me a break.

6 posted on 01/16/2017 4:06:48 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

It was the Israelis.


7 posted on 01/16/2017 4:24:41 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (CNN - The Chicken Noodle Network)
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To: Hostage
Fancy Bear is thought to be run by the GRU, Russia's military intelligence service.

Now there's some real high quality intelligence work for you. We THINK that the GRU just MIGHT BE Fancy Bear. Or, it could be some 14 year old kid with a home built computer and a 1200 baud modem. Who knows? Who actually cares except the Dems desperate to explain away their incompetent candidate and their failed presidential campaign.

8 posted on 01/16/2017 4:38:57 PM PST by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time.)
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To: Hostage

Is there anyone on earth that wasn’t into that DNC server? Have we ever had an election that WASN’T hacked?


9 posted on 01/16/2017 5:10:35 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
Is there anyone on earth that wasn’t into that DNC server?

Are you speaking of Madonna?

10 posted on 01/16/2017 5:23:26 PM PST by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: Hostage

Option 1) Americans in the CIA (Leaks and Political Meddling Branch) or the NSA (Department of Political Appointees) named these groups “Fancy Bear” and “Cozy Bear” based on an assumption that they were Russian, an attribution that was almost certainly encouraged for political reasons.

Option 2) The Russians said, “I know some great nicknames for our hacking groups. They will all be ‘Bear’ because we are Russian! The GRU will call theirs ‘Fancy Bear’, and the SVR will call theirs ‘Cozy Bear’.”

Somehow, neither explanation convinces me that Hillary lost because of Russian hacking. Of course I believe the Russians hacked Hillary’s server, and Podesto’s, and the DNC’s, but so did everyone else. This is a blame game and part of an inside-the-government and media effort to question the legitimacy of the president, now that we finally have a legitimate president.


11 posted on 01/16/2017 5:32:26 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Hostage

i guess seth rich was a russian hacker... /s


12 posted on 01/16/2017 5:58:57 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Pollster1

Assange has said that hackers will often try to appear to be something they are not. In other words, if a hacker comes in from an IP or with names or intercepts that look Chinese or Russian or whatever, it’s a good chance it’s made to look that way especially if it is easy to detect.

No doubt Russians of some sort were snooping but likely many others were likewise. As I posted weeks ago, a total lie would be that no Russians of any sort attempted to hack into any USA network, etc.


13 posted on 01/16/2017 6:09:26 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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