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To: Olog-hai

I am not arguing that Social Security and Medicare, etc. are not socialistic.

But how do they fit with anything I have described? Neither program has any real budget. Both give means tested benefits.

Conservatives need to have viable proposals to replace the socialistic programs in place today. These will never fly if they do not provide a path to independence and prosperity for those who currently are dependent on the government. The only other way is to fight a costly civil war. And that will be far more expensive than even the massive government freebies being dolled out today.

“governments are not needed to create money and/or its value: take note of Bitcoin”

Government must exist to regulate commerce and protect the ownership of property. It does not matter if the currency is gold, government-backed notes, or bitcoin.

The problem is NOT government. The problem is corruption. During our lifetimes our government has been derelict of duty. Instead of protecting property rights it has engaged in theft. Instead of equitable regulations, politicians have created laws designed to enrich themselves, and consolidate and perpetuate power.

Conservatives must be educated and articulate enough to promote alternative solutions that work. Otherwise we will remain stuck with the status quo.


69 posted on 01/04/2017 12:00:33 AM PST by unlearner (11/8/2016 - a new beginning.)
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To: unlearner
You love dictating to “Conservatives”, do you not, especially when proposing alternatives to socialism that are themselves inherently socialistic and federally conducted. The only viable solution is to end all federal programs; they are unconstitutional. The Conscience of a Conservative made the very same point:
The government must begin to withdraw from a whole series of programs that are outside its constitutional mandate—from social welfare programs, education, public power, agriculture, public housing, urban renewal and all the other activities that can be better performed by lower levels of government or by private institutions or by individuals.

I do not suggest that the federal government drop all of these programs overnight. But I do suggest that we establish, by law, a rigid timetable for a staged withdrawal. We might provide, for example, for a ten-percent spending reduction each year in all of the fields in which federal participation is undesirable.

It is only through this kind of determined assault on the principle of unlimited government that American people will obtain relief from high taxes, and will start making progress toward regaining their freedom. …

— Chapter 7, “Taxes and Spending”, p. 66
This is less “equitable” than more programs? I think not.
74 posted on 01/04/2017 8:30:39 AM PST by Olog-hai
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