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To: Dusty Road
You can not help somebody who doesn’t want to stop only those who do.

Yes.

I can easily believe a success rate of 65% in heroin addicts who want to stop.

My "all-in" success rate of 15%-20% with suboxone includes all comers, most of whom, as I'm sure you know, have no desire to stop.

My criticism of our politicians is based on their lies to the public that "treatment" is able to make this slow-motion disaster stop, when that is almost surely false.

Congratulations on your work.

34 posted on 01/01/2017 7:02:26 AM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: Jim Noble

“My criticism of our politicians is based on their lies to the public that “treatment” is able to make this slow-motion disaster stop, when that is almost surely false.”

This coming from the same politicians who get their arse in crack when busted for DUI or DWI and then head to a high dollar celebrity rehab/country club coming out claiming all is well and to forgive their past. Then they go on with their lives doing the same things they always did. I went to detox and rehab at Origins Recovery Center at South Padre Island TX. No it’s not cheap but it is a hardcore recovery facility that doesn’t play games, basic detox is 5 days and that runs about 14,000 dollars then it’s direct to rehab which runs about a 1000.00 dollars a day with a 30 day minimum. With that kind of cost it limits the clientele to those of higher income. In my group we had a college Professor with a PHD, 3 professional athletes, 1 professional boxer (He got me started weight lifting), 1 doctor and Lawyer. All of us came in on a volunteer basis and all of us are at 100% recovered status. The truly sad part about addiction is the cost of recovery so very few can afford the full scale program. This is where the politicians need to direct their attention and work to make this affordable for those who want it. The real cost you can not avoid is detox, that takes doctors, nurses and a facility designed for detox. The rehab can be handled with volunteers and a minimal medical staff. Right now my business partner and I (Both recovered alcoholics) have been footing the bill for the rehab, and in the process of purchasing an older nursing home here locally to convert to a treatment center that can handle this at a much lower cost. We’re starting with alcoholics only but branch to other addictions when were comfortable with the treatment.


36 posted on 01/01/2017 8:09:39 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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