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To: WilliamIII
Russia's population is shrinking fast, its economy is in free fall, it's at war with its neighbors, the rule of law is essentially nonexistent, local and regional governments are dominated by strongmen, corruption is universal and the economy is significantly smaller than Italy's. The public health infrastructure is in a state of collapse, drug use and HIV are widespread, alcoholism almost universal.

Yeah, lets be them.

9 posted on 12/31/2016 12:34:44 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

Russia’s population is shrinking fast, its economy is in free fall, it’s at war with its neighbors, the rule of law is essentially nonexistent, local and regional governments are dominated by strongmen, corruption is universal and the economy is significantly smaller than Italy’s. The public health infrastructure is in a state of collapse, drug use and HIV are widespread, alcoholism almost universal.
Yeah, lets be them.


If that’s the case why are we worried about them?


16 posted on 12/31/2016 12:36:20 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: Alter Kaker

Repentance and conversion to be disciples of Christ, low taxes and intolerance of perverts would help anyone out.


22 posted on 12/31/2016 12:37:17 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Alter Kaker

Hyperbole much? It’s GDP the last 2 years dropped due to oil prices plummeting but Russian GDP is expected to rise next year. Your comment about public health, drug and STD relevancy are true in Europe, Canada, and the US as well. The rule of law for small and medium business has long been since dead in the US and TPTB get away with anything they want (The Clinton’s as prime example) and who knows where all of the $4t+ our fed gov spends every year really goes.


28 posted on 12/31/2016 12:39:43 PM PST by rb22982
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To: Alter Kaker

I live in Russia. What you have written is full of shiite.


30 posted on 12/31/2016 12:41:19 PM PST by Cowboy Bob
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To: Alter Kaker; WilliamIII
Russia's population is shrinking fast, its economy is in free fall, it's at war with its neighbors, the rule of law is essentially nonexistent, local and regional governments are dominated by strongmen, corruption is universal and the economy is significantly smaller than Italy's. The public health infrastructure is in a state of collapse, drug use and HIV are widespread, alcoholism almost universal.

Yeah, lets be them.

Did you even bother to read WilliamIII's question?

31 posted on 12/31/2016 12:41:23 PM PST by COBOL2Java (1 Tim 2:1-3)
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To: Alter Kaker

You need to look around this forum for Freepers who have had their feet in Russia. Those who have will give you a better view into Russia.

No body wants to “be them” as you state. The question was why hate and fear them or even go to war with them? Your reply seems to indicate that they are in such bad shape we need not worry.


34 posted on 12/31/2016 12:44:55 PM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Alter Kaker

So Russia is at war with North Korea, China, Mongolia, Kazhakstan, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Latvia, Estonia, Norway and Finland. And at the same time kicked our butts in Syria. It seems like hostilities are only occurring with two neighbors. Ukraine and Georgia.


47 posted on 12/31/2016 12:53:38 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Alter Kaker
US nativist population is shrinking fast, its economy is in free fall, it's at war with its neighbors and overseas, the rule of law is essentially nonexistent, its government is murdering its citizens, local and regional governments are dominated by strongmen, corruption is universal and the economy is significantly smaller per capita than 2007. The public health infrastructure is in a state of collapse, drug use and HIV are widespread, substance almost universal.

We are them.

64 posted on 12/31/2016 1:02:14 PM PST by ricmc2175
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To: Alter Kaker

Most of what you listed is the same here in the “Land Of The Free.”


85 posted on 12/31/2016 1:11:32 PM PST by TTFlyer
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To: Alter Kaker

I think Russia is a country on the right track.


88 posted on 12/31/2016 1:14:09 PM PST by impimp
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To: Alter Kaker
Russia's population is shrinking fast, its economy is in free fall, it's at war with its neighbors, the rule of law is essentially nonexistent, local and regional governments are dominated by strongmen, corruption is universal and the economy is significantly smaller than Italy's. The public health infrastructure is in a state of collapse, drug use and HIV are widespread, alcoholism almost universal. Yeah, lets be them.

White populations in the West are declining as well, especially proportionately to non-white population. Higher drug use and shorter life spans among working-class whites is startling. Death rates from alcohol have tripled among white women in the past 20 years. OTOH, Christian church participation in Russia is increasing while in U.S. decreasing.

But frankly, if you're neocon non-Christian living in Bethesda or Upper East Side, you don't have much sympathy for working-class Christians, whether in Moscow, Idaho or Moscow, Russia.

154 posted on 12/31/2016 2:02:16 PM PST by AC Beach Patrol
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To: Alter Kaker; WilliamIII

All the things that he is positive about did not cause the conditions you describe.

Russians were in that state when they came out of communism and are improving their birthrate. You exaggerate to say alcoholism is universal, it is high but not universal. The rest of what you accurately describe is a carryover from many generations of communism.

Other former Soviet blocs are not much better and in fact, former communist places like Croatia and Slovenia are in despair as well. Even non-communist nations are on the brink of anarchy, for example Greece.

It’s only been about 25 years since the fall of the USSR. That’s not quite a full economic generation yet. Russia does indeed have problems but they also have successes. They’ve always been that way in history.

Their biggest problem is the same as it was 100 years ago. They tend to be ruled by an autocracy. They have no culture or conditions for widespread innovation and technological disruptive invention. The latter exists in the USA largely due to the role of courts (e.g. Ma Bell breakup). Russians excel at many things because they have geniuses who are most often picked up and cared for by the autocratic ruling families.

There are 3 families that rule Russia. Putin is from one of them. They are presently at peace with one another. That is Putin’s achievement.


214 posted on 12/31/2016 3:08:29 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Alter Kaker
Russians. Never taking responsibility for themselves.
284 posted on 01/01/2017 11:19:32 AM PST by jmacusa (Election 2016. The Battle of Midway for The Democrat Party.)
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