If you feel JR was unfair take it up with him
After it became clear trump had it locked up he warned folks we were going to support the nominee even though early on he was Cruz like me
Then some continued bashing Trump and got warning zots and the permanent zots if they insisted
Early on in 2015 when Trump was rising the Cruz people here frequently when berserk countered by some Trump folks
Both sides had I think professionals here sent by their campaigns
The anti Trumpers did not leave because they were run off...they left because they don’t want to be where Trump is applauded
And now he has nominated what seems to me the most conservative get her done cabinet I’ve ever seen and still talks the talk on Islam Christmas and other culture issues so you have to wonder about their judgement about what is conservative
Is it just because they lost?
That’s silly
I’ve been here a long time and if you read up you’ll see this is forum history going back 17 years to when the Goldbergs left to the Clown Posse to Wideawakes etc
It’s always about thee “exodus”
Don’t fall for it
They are all over at gopbriefing room.com looking......wrong
And the truly duplicitous bash us there and then come back here like moths to the flame cause they can’t help it
[[The anti Trumpers did not leave because they were run off]]
They weren’t just anti trumpers that left- things were so bad here that people stopped publishing comments- especially if they supported ted during the primaries- (Which is a far different thing than being an ‘anti-trumper’)- it became blatantly apparent that any kind of support for Ted during the primaries was a red flag to folks here on the site who supported trump-
[[After it became clear trump had it locked up]]
Sorry- but the animosity happened before the primaries were over- back when it looked like Ted still had a chance-
[[Then some continued bashing Trump]]
Some did- not all- Several tried bringing up how uncivil the forums had become and were relentle4ssly mocked and attacked- eventually giving their opus- some of these folks were not ‘anti-trump’ - They left because they saw what FR was becoming- making it more than clear why they were leaving in their threads- some of the threads were so nasty that mods had to delete them- Several tried to bring the issue up but were suspended-
[[Then some continued bashing Trump and got warning zots and the permanent zots ]]
Again- the issue wasn’t about those few republicans who were actively trying to subvert the election- some folks rightfully were banned- we’re talking about people during the primaries who simply felt Ted was the right choice-
I went through the threads where sum of these folks were zotted or simply left- or posted their opuses because this issue was tearing the site apart during that time— and went through their posting histories during this time- and some of these folks were not ‘never-trump’- because folks kept claiming they were zotted because they were ‘rapid never trumpers’- i knew several of the folks, and never knew them to be ‘rabid anti-trumpers’- I even pointed out in several threads that nothing i could find supported that accusation-
[[The anti Trumpers did not leave because they were run off...they left because they don’t want to be where Trump is applauded]]
We’re not talking about rabid ‘never trumpers’ - many folks that have left because of what transpired here supported Ted during the primaries BUT accepted Donald as the people’s choice- In the big picture- Most republicans who supported Ted were not ‘never-trumpers’- they were ‘never hillary’ first and foremost and they accepted that the people as a whole, felt that trump was the choice needed- they may not have agreed- but they accepted it-
If you go back and go through the opuses that were done back then- not all the folks leaving were never trump-
Every election you are going to have ‘never so and sos’ but in the end most republicans end up accepting whoever the nominee is because they are first and foremost ‘never - democrats’
[[so you have to wonder about their judgment about what is conservative]]
Not really- Donald either intentionally or unintentionally portrayed some less than solid conservative stances optically- to an objective observer- it leaves them scratching their heads- His supporters of course dismiss the optics and claim he is ‘just toying with the left’ (And maybe he is- some objective observers however don’t know for sure however at this point, and are worried about it- the reality is that he has work to do to convince folks he’s onboard- I personally think he is- although admittedly some of the things He’s done like meeting with gore and decrapio are a bit troubling- I realize he hired a man who does not support the idea that man is causing climate change but then again he’s also hired on another fella who thinks we are- can’t remember his name right now- true- that fella doesn’t have a position where he can influence directly as part of his job- but it’;s the optics that have people a bit nervous-)
I’ve been here since the Bush term- lurking mostly- been through several elections- Yes- it always get heated- but i have not witnessed republicans turning on each other like i did during this last election (The one minor exception was when romney ran and folks were trying to make the case that as bad as he was- he was still preferable to the commie traitor that was his opponent- but even those debates didn’t rise to the level of hostility and nastiness that was witnessed here (and note I’m not singling out this site- MANY sites got very nasty- even fox news turned very very ugly on both sides- Passions were at an all time high (in recent memory) because of the crap we all had been through for the last 8 years with the current administration and his systematic assault on this country-
Trump is right when he states there was a ‘movement like never before’- and the reason is because people were very angry about the state of affairs this country was in-
anyway- I’ve said my piece-