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To: billyboy15

“As I clearly said before ATC can have input into creation of FAA rules and regs but have NO AUTHORITY of their own to create said regulations. For that matter as a pilot I can have input to the FAA.”

You might want to tell that to those at the FAA Academy that are writing the Regulations.

They could save a lot of money because these regulations are being generated out of thin Air.

Interesting, how you decided to go off on a tangent by only mentioning NOTAMs and ignored the fact that there are classes at the Mike Monroney Aeronautical Center in OKC on Airspace with ATC as students.

and....NO.....you did NOT “Clearly” state that ATC can have input into creation of FAA rules and regs. You said one thing then said another...... so it is NOT clear.

“Not saying ATC doesn’t provide a valuable service, just that you DON’T make the rules and can only offer SUGGESTIONS TO A PILOT

ATC is part of the FAA. You don’t have pencil pushers creating rules and regulations for Air Traffic Controllers. ATC is actively involved as they know the Airspace.

Suggestions to a Pilot?

§ 91.123 Compliance with ATC clearances and instructions.
(a) When an ATC clearance has been obtained, no pilot in command may deviate from that clearance unless an amended clearance is obtained, an emergency exists, or the deviation is in response to a traffic alert and collision avoidance system resolution advisory. However, except in Class A airspace, a pilot may cancel an IFR flight plan if the operation is being conducted in VFR weather conditions. When a pilot is uncertain of an ATC clearance, that pilot shall immediately request clarification from ATC.

(b) Except in an emergency, no person may operate an aircraft contrary to an ATC instruction in an area in which air traffic control is exercised.

(c) Each pilot in command who, in an emergency, or in response to a traffic alert and collision avoidance system resolution advisory, deviates from an ATC clearance or instruction shall notify ATC of that deviation as soon as possible.

(d) Each pilot in command who (though not deviating from a rule of this subpart) is given priority by ATC in an emergency, shall submit a detailed report of that emergency within 48 hours to the manager of that ATC facility, if requested by ATC.

(e) Unless otherwise authorized by ATC, no person operating an aircraft may operate that aircraft according to any clearance or instruction that has been issued to the pilot of another aircraft for radar air traffic control purposes.

You are not doing very well here......you do realize this?

Shall we continue? I am kinda enjoying this now........


58 posted on 11/28/2016 11:26:49 AM PST by Jayster
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To: Jayster

Lol,so your argument is the ATC is part of the FAA?

So I guess that means because the secretary pool in Congress is “part” of the Congress they also get to write law?

Everything done by ATC is done UNDER AUTHORITY of the FAA. The ATC has no more authority to write it’s own law then a police dept. Notice I said LAW.

Probably a good idea to sober up before you reply.


61 posted on 11/28/2016 12:16:59 PM PST by billyboy15
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