Jill Stein Filing Not Valid

Statutes of WI and US | 11/27/16 | Self

[Ken H]

States must make final decisions in any controversies over the appointment of their electors at least six days before the meeting of the Electors.

So it's up to the state's board of certification to make that decision. I still have seen no WI law that says the board can't certify if the recounters miss their deadline. It seems ridiculous on its face that a state could lose its EVs over a late recount.

[Ken H]

They are going to cherry pick judges and make it up as they go.

It's up to the state's certification board. In order for a judge to get involved, there would have to be a WI law that prevents the board from certifying the election if a recount has missed the deadline.

[rdcbn]

Study the History of Bush vs Gore

There were frequent visits to judges to settle disputes in the recount process.

[Ken H]

FL was bound by the recount process that it set for itself.

I still want to know what WI law says that the state can't certify the first count if a recount deadline is missed.

[jmclemore]

That guy teaches constitutional law! Talk about scamming and defrauding students, wow. If this is the point of view from which this guy teaches, he has no business in a classroom.

To: Garrett Epps

Guess what Professor,
He will be sworn in as POTUS in Jan.
He won, Deal with it.


By the way, you have your free speech but you are not the voice of the majority. That will be President Donald J Trump. You are a mere whimper and whine in the background of relevancy.

[cpdiii]

Hillary not Stein, has defined the rules of battle.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions will decide the rules of war. Trump can not tell his attorney general to prosecute or not prosecute Hillary Clinton. He sure as hell can legally tell the Attorney General to uphold the law of the United States of America and prosecute wrong doers.

Hillary is hunting “The Most Dangerous Game.” In this type of hunt the game animal wins far more often than the hunter.

[Future Useless Eater]

I still want to know what WI law says that the state can't certify the first count if a recount deadline is missed.

I think this is the statute text you are looking for...

Wisconsin Statute 7.70
(5) Certificates of election.
When a valid petition for recount is filed, the commission chairperson or the chairperson's designee may not certify a nomination, and the governor or commission may not issue a certificate of election until the recount has been completed and the time allowed for filing an appeal has passed, or if appealed until the appeal is decided.

[Ken H]

I’m not sure that applies to presidential electors, which is addressed under section (b) =>

(5) Certificates of election.

(a) The commission shall record in its office each certified statement and determination made by the commission chairperson or the chairperson’s designee. Immediately after the expiration of the time allowed to file a petition for recount, the commission shall make and transmit to each person declared elected a certificate of election under the seal of the commission. It shall also prepare similar certificates, attested by the commission administrator, addressed to the U.S. house of representatives, stating the names of those persons elected as representatives to the congress from this state. In the case of U.S. senators, the commission shall prepare a certificate of election for the governor’s signature, and the governor shall sign and affix the great seal of the state and transmit the certificate to the president of the U.S. senate. The certificate shall be countersigned by the secretary of state. If a person elected was elected to fill a vacancy, the certificate shall so indicate. When a valid petition for recount is filed, the commission chairperson or the chairperson’s designee may not certify a nomination, and the governor or commission may not issue a certificate of election until the recount has been completed and the time allowed for filing an appeal has passed, or if appealed until the appeal is decided.

(b) For presidential electors, the commission shall prepare a certificate showing the determination of the results of the canvass and the names of the persons elected, and the governor shall sign, affix the great seal of the state, and transmit the certificate by registered mail to the U.S. administrator of general services. The governor shall also prepare 6 duplicate originals of such certificate and deliver them to one of the presidential electors on or before the first Monday after the 2nd Wednesday in December.

[Ken H]

Thanks for the cite, btw. Link to statute => https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/7/II/70/5/b

[Drew68]

So I am guessing no fee has been paid.

She's not going to pay a dime to anyone until she knows that she can do recounts in all three states. Otherwise, what's the point? This is why she's holding off paying Wisconsin until the end of the week.

There won't be any recounts at all if she can't do all three. In the meantime, she continues to raise a nice chunk of change for her Green Party.

[JohnnyP]

What does it mean in plain English?

[mazda77]

There are two fees. One for the filing itself and then once that is done and the filing accepted, then the state does a canvas on how much it would cost each precinct to perform. Once all are in, then that total number constitutes the fee for the recount itself.

[SauronOfMordor]

You are right. In section (ag)-3, it does say that no petition is valid unless the fee was paid at time of filing, with the fee being calculated on the spot in the office.

[ThePatriotsFlag]

Ping

[Ray76]

> Springing a spurious demand for a recount on the day of the deadline and not paying the fee because there is no time to calculate the cost for the recount is a deliberate, bad faith attempt to circumvent the law and initiate a recount without paying the up from fee, as is required by law.

> The fact that Jill Stein filed a bogus, unwarranted recount petition at the late hour of the day of the final deadline which did not give the State time to provide a cost for payment so the Recount Petition Cost be paid in full before the filing deadline is her problem, not ours and the petition should be rejected.

Good points.

[EDINVA]

It is NOT a WI law; it’s a federal “safe harbor” law that gives the states 35 days from the election to certify. That 35th day this year is 12/13/16. A Milwaukee paper sets it out (tho doesn’t cite the US Code Section).

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3498406/posts

Why do you think Stein waited till the 11th hour? And is demanding a hand recount? The old run out the clock strategery. Bet my bottom dollar this has been in the works probably since 11/9.

Apparently she has a problem in PA where she has to go thru the courts and certify a valid reason for the recount not just suspicion based on claims of unknown “experts” in statistics, and her other BS excuses.

[Ken H]

It is NOT a WI law; it’s a federal “safe harbor” law that gives the states 35 days from the election to certify. That 35th day this year is 12/13/16.

I got federal part, but the claim that a delay in the WI recount could nullify WI EVs depends on WI laws. I'm saying there is no WI law that prevents WI from certifying the initial results for presidential electors simply because the recount is not completed by the deadline.