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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I believe that it is absolutely true that you cannot get more energy out of a system/reaction than is put into it - unless the extra energy is coming from someplace else. Perhaps the configuration is opening up a pathway for energy from somewhere else.
10 posted on 11/20/2016 12:32:17 PM PST by WMarshal (Trump 2016 - because the Democrats are criminals and the GOP is the Gang Of Pussies)
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To: WMarshal

That is also the physics that I learned but I have been reading about this for the last couple of years and it works, it happens. That is hard to argue against.


11 posted on 11/20/2016 12:40:03 PM PST by oldenuff35
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To: WMarshal

Thank you for a reasoned reply. If the energy is not conserved the device is acquiring energy by some process not yet understood. There is always an explanation.


12 posted on 11/20/2016 12:43:30 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: WMarshal

It’s easy to get energy and power from arrays in space as long as there is a sufficient light source.

I haven’t read the paper yet but I would expect to see an electric motor drive a controllable inertia device of some sort to propel movement. Thus, no fuel needed.

Not sure why the writer of this is creating confusion with Newton’s 3rd Law other than to add drama (we need better writers in science; probably the current pay is abysmal so they get the bottom of the barrel).

Newton’s laws are never violated because the definitions and terms he adopted and crafted ensure their veracity by definition. like a system of arithmetic.


82 posted on 11/20/2016 7:21:13 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V):)
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To: WMarshal

It’s easy to get energy and power from arrays in space as long as there is a sufficient light source.

I haven’t read the paper yet but I would expect to see an electric motor drive a controllable inertia device of some sort to propel movement. Thus, no fuel needed.

Not sure why the writer of this is creating confusion with Newton’s 3rd Law other than to add drama (we need better writers in science; probably the current pay is abysmal so they get the bottom of the barrel).

Newton’s laws are never violated because the definitions and terms he adopted and crafted ensure their veracity by definition. like a system of arithmetic.


83 posted on 11/20/2016 7:21:13 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V):)
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