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To: Yo-Yo
I really like Scott Adams' writings (and cartoons), but in this case I think he skipped establishing any compelling case for bothering much with all the effort to "shatter the Monster illusion" or coddle those choosing to live in a liberal bubble.

Why is it necessary to subordinate principles (specifically Pence's normative Christian ones) to the cause of unblocking traffic? How about conservatives/republicans try a different take? In the realm of government, enact principle-based laws and structures and then sink or swim (and persuade) based on the results.

8 posted on 11/14/2016 9:07:26 AM PST by rpierce (We have taglines now? :)
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To: rpierce

Agreed. I was pissed off about this clown’s desire to “fix” Pence’s thinking about a behavior God calls disgusting.


10 posted on 11/14/2016 9:15:06 AM PST by afsnco
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To: rpierce; Yo-Yo; All
rpierce says: "Why is it necessary to subordinate principles (specifically Pence's normative Christian ones) to the cause of unblocking traffic? How about conservatives/republicans try a different take? In the realm of government, enact principle-based laws and structures and then sink or swim (and persuade) based on the results."

Bingo! Departing from Constitutional principles is how we got where we are. See Jefferson's thoughts on this subject:

"I am not among those who fear the people. They...are our dependence for continued freedom. And to preserve their independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds...our people...must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they (the British) now do, on oatmeal and potatoes; have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers....This example reads to us the salutary lesson that private fortunes are destroyed by public, as well as by private extravagance. And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from the principle in one instance, becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering. Then begins, indeed, the 'bellum omnium in omnia,' which some philosophers...have mistaken for the natural, instead of the abusive, state of man. And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression." - Thomas Jefferson

11 posted on 11/14/2016 9:15:12 AM PST by loveliberty2
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