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Would You Be The Hero During A Rampage Shooting?
http://www.ammoland.com/2016/10/hero-rampage-shooting/?utm_source=Ammoland+Subscribers&utm_campaign= ^ | October 17, 2016 | Michael W Loos

Posted on 10/22/2016 9:13:40 AM PDT by B4Ranch

Would You Be The Hero During A Rampage Shooting?

Posted on October 21, 2016October 17, 2016 by

by Michael W LoosActive ShooterActive Shooter New Gunner JournalNew Gunner Journal

USA –-(Ammoland.com)- This appears to be one of the most talked about situations, as far as concealed carry is concerned.

For this, I don’t believe there is a simple answer. But this is what I tell those who ask.

My job, my one and only job, the only thing I’m worrying about is to keep me and mine safe. That’s it. Nothing more, nothing less. If shooting starts, living in Condition Yellow I know where exits are. I know where elevators, staircases and escalators are.

And I’m getting me and mine out. Period.

Now that may sound crass to many. It may sound cold and detached, but that’s it in a nutshell – and I don’t owe anyone an explanation.

Everyone has the ability to defend themselves. As a matter of fact, it’s your personal responsibility to defend yourself – not mine, not the Police, not the Governments – it’s yours.

Now with that being said, after my family and friends are safe, then the decision to take on a shooter would depend on the circumstances at that time – and at that time they may be undefinable.

It is possible that an active shooter / rampage shooter situation could break out right in front of you and there may be an opportunity to end it right there – but what if you miss and are shot, how will your spouse, your children, your grandchildren make it to safety? Or will they be mowed down with the others?

The only situation I believe I would run into headlong, is an active shooter at a school (or anyplace children were present) where I know the Police have not arrived. Then?

I’m in. Devil be damned.

Stay Safe and Carry Responsibly,
Hipshot – NewGunnerJournal.



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To: Talisker

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>> “So you think Christians are feather-headed babblers?” <<

Those that pretend to know “What Jesus wants” all the time.

It mattwers not how profound the teaching may be if it is totally inapplicable to the situation.

Christianity is a man made religion, that totally fails to follow Yeshua’s and his Father’s commandments, and yet believes that they are still somehow eligible to attend his wedding feast, so I suppose that I must yield to their imagination on what correct behavior therein is.

Now, your injection of outside issues that were not a part of the discussion, like cowardice appears to be the typical boilerplate with which you have a tendency to reinforce your irrelevant rants.


61 posted on 10/22/2016 8:21:53 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: marktwain

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I believe that most if not all of us here in this thread are of an inclination to take action, as long as said action has some reasonable probability of success.

In a high stress situation, our aim may not be as reliable as at the range. If you can find a rest to use, you may be able to do great things.
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62 posted on 10/22/2016 8:32:34 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Yes, stress degrades accuracy.

I agree that most would take action with a reasonable chance of success.

But if you pre-program to not take action, that is more likely what you will do.


63 posted on 10/22/2016 8:37:35 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: editor-surveyor
Christianity is a man made religion, that totally fails to follow Yeshua’s and his Father’s commandments, and yet believes that they are still somehow eligible to attend his wedding feast, so I suppose that I must yield to their imagination on what correct behavior therein is.

So you'll run and save your own ass above all. Got it.

Now, your injection of outside issues that were not a part of the discussion, like cowardice appears to be the typical boilerplate with which you have a tendency to reinforce your irrelevant rants.

And you won't apply your so-called philosophy to real life. Got it.

We have literally nothing in common, so I'll just say bye.

64 posted on 10/22/2016 8:42:16 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

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>> “So you’ll run and save your own ass above all” <<

Your IQ appears to be falling fast.

Unlike you, I will always do whatever I can do without making the situation worse. Killing or injuring innocent bystanders sounds like your MOS.
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65 posted on 10/22/2016 8:51:06 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: marktwain

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We don’t “carry not to take action.” That is illogical at its core.


66 posted on 10/22/2016 8:54:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Robert357
MY CPL is not a commitment to protect and serve anyone besides myself and those I love. If people want to be safe they need to take responsibility for their own safety an get their own CPL.

Simple, clear, correct.

67 posted on 10/22/2016 8:55:37 PM PDT by gogeo (Black Lives Matter to Donald Trump.)
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To: editor-surveyor

We don’t “carry not to take action.” That is illogical at its core.”

Good thing is is not what I wrote.


68 posted on 10/22/2016 9:04:24 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

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Sorry, I must have misunderstood your post.


69 posted on 10/22/2016 9:07:01 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: absalom01

“I guess I’m agreeing with your assertion that no one can know for sure until the time comes, but it’s still prudent to have a plan for different contingencies.”

And I agree that having contingency plans is prudent.


70 posted on 10/22/2016 9:51:38 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Unlike you, I will always do whatever I can do without making the situation worse. Killing or injuring innocent bystanders sounds like your MOS.

By all means, run for it. When people fight back against mass murderers, things can get dangerous - and it's their fault, not the mass murderer's. If only they would wait for official instructions, all would be well, but no, they have to go asking what Jesus would do - without the approved certification of decisionmaking authority from an accredited church. So, as the danger of self-defense is clearly not in your personal best interest, it's definitely best if you leave (as soon as you get a good selfie to tweet to show you were there).

71 posted on 10/23/2016 8:39:35 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: B4Ranch

No. Decided long ago, the *others* I thought I would protect/save are worthless HRC voters. Definitely. Nope.


72 posted on 10/23/2016 8:48:21 AM PDT by Daffynition (*Donald Trump represents the WILL of the PEOPLE.*~ Don King 09.24.16)
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To: Talisker

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Wow Rambo has a FR account!

Have you noticed that everyone on this thread but you appears to be sane?
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73 posted on 10/23/2016 10:38:43 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Wow Rambo has a FR account! Have you noticed that everyone on this thread but you appears to be sane?

I don't call people who throw away Christ's teachings in a crisis "sane."

Your mockery was noted 2,000 years ago in the Bible, it's not new, nor does it interest me.

74 posted on 10/23/2016 11:42:33 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

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Nobody has thrown away any teachings, and you have no connection to our savior, or his actual teachings.
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75 posted on 10/23/2016 11:47:07 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: smokingfrog

I carry all the time, everywhere I go. I do not carry in a ‘quick draq’ way since I know if someone targets me in surprise they will likely get me. BUT if I have time to draw my weapon and means to terminate a bad guy/gal, I am committed to do so. At 71, I want to terminate the bad guy so it can’t continue to do unto others, immediately or in some leftists future preceded by a ‘court appearance and release’. ... And I practice as often as I can do so, with a variety of personal tools.


76 posted on 10/23/2016 11:57:02 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: editor-surveyor
Nobody has thrown away any teachings, and you have no connection to our savior, or his actual teachings.

You would abandon people and run and hide when you were armed, because you refuse to recognize protecting them as a divine obligation. Now you attack my faith for pointing that out and declaring it wrong.

We have nothing in common, and you know nothing about Christ. I am not interested in discussing anything with you anymore.

Get thee behind me, coward.

77 posted on 10/23/2016 12:13:26 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

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Save your stupid bullcrap for morons like yourself.

You’re the only one on this thread, or had you noticed?
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78 posted on 10/23/2016 12:18:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Talisker

ES is a Michael Rood sycophant ... try to ignore such a source of obstinate ignorance. ES still is unable to see how the Roodian way is works based religion, so he rejects Chrisitanity.


79 posted on 10/23/2016 12:23:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: editor-surveyor
Save your stupid bullcrap for morons like yourself. You’re the only one on this thread, or had you noticed?

There is no thread, I'm just replying to your insults. Your rage is understandable - it's hard to justify cowardice. Especially through Jesus, who taught sacrifice and brotherhood. You see that's the difference between us - you're pretending this is a gun thread, when it's actually a Christian faith test thread.

Big mistake. There are fates worse than death.

80 posted on 10/23/2016 12:39:12 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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