I’m not saying there was no fraud - there was.
But I’m duly souring your other statement - that the polls were right in 2012.
There’s no way you can ever confirm that because you can go back measure the voter suppression from demoralizing false polls. The aura of inevitability created by false polls is extremely powerful - it is the ultimate self fulfilling prophesy.
Since the poll is basically a prophesy that the republican is losing by a huge margin, then because republicans believe it, and are demoralized, and don’t bother turning out to vote, the prophesy is self fulfilled, and therefore proven “right” as you say.
But it wasn’t right at the time, it was a lie.
This is no different than the lies Clinton tells during the debate which are “fact checked” as “true”. Or true Trump statements that proven to be lies by so called “fact checkers”.
I think there is fraud but not on a scale as significant as the self fulfilling prophesy of false polls, which suppress republican turnout.
If Trump can somehow prolong his aura of winning so that his supporters remain excited and hopeful, and show up to vote - he will win in a landslide.
If the media succeeds in painting a picture that it’s over for Trump, he as no chance, - I’m really afraid a significant percentage of his support will move on and find something else to cheer about, maybe their favorite football team, and forget about Trump.
I hope I’m wrong. But meanwhile - don’t believe the polls if they begin to show Trump losing from here out!
Go Trump!!
Duly souring? Jeez. That was meant to be “disputing”