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Donald Trump Is Wrong—Immigrants Don’t Commit More Crimes
The Cato Institute ^ | September 27, 2016 | David Bier

Posted on 09/29/2016 8:15:48 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Since this author is an idiot setting up straw men arguments I quit reading


61 posted on 09/29/2016 9:42:43 PM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Illegals don’t have to create the most crime.

Just some crime to be an argument against them.


62 posted on 09/29/2016 9:48:17 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Hillary's nominatin = 60's Violence. "Constant conflict is actually often good politics"-Clinton)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

By definition the first decision an illegal immigrant makes upon entering the country is to break our immigration laws. So sick of our “betters” acting as if breaking our immigration laws is not a crime.


63 posted on 09/29/2016 9:59:19 PM PDT by AC86UT89
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BS. The nightly crime report in any Southern California city/town is almost exclusively immigrants (illegal)


64 posted on 09/29/2016 10:44:53 PM PDT by reaganaut (I'm looking forward to Trump as President. I'm an Evangelical and I vote.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

what a strawman!
it’s not who commits the most crime - it’s not a contest
The point is, hispanics, male and female, comprise the second highest population in our prisons and they’re not there for shoplifting:

“According to a 2009 report by the Pew Hispanic Center, in 2007 Latinos “accounted for 40% of all sentenced federal offenders-more than triple their share (13%) of the total U.S. adult population”. This was an increase from 24% in 1991. 72% of the Latino offenders were not U.S. citizens.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States#Hispanics

more:

2010 Incarceration rates per 100,000, males: blacks 4347, hispanics 1,775, whites 678
females: blacks 260, hispanics 133, whites 91

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States#Ethnicity


65 posted on 09/29/2016 10:56:56 PM PDT by blueplum ((March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?))
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To: Williams
eggsackary !

Sheesh what a stupid author

66 posted on 09/29/2016 11:17:55 PM PDT by onona (Honey this isn't Kindergarten. We are in an all out war for the survival of our Country !)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’ve been getting a lot of unsolicited phone calls and junk mail. It’s been taking up a lot of my time. Anyone know where I can get one of those monkeys that answers your phone for you, can be trained to star 60? And open letters, file bills and toss junk? A monkey or a libertarian.


67 posted on 09/30/2016 12:01:08 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: ConservaTeen

There’s that one little piece that just screws up the whole statistic. So they just leave it out.


68 posted on 09/30/2016 12:08:13 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Wow. Sad. I used to respect Cato. This author, well, if he went to college he should try to get his money back.


69 posted on 09/30/2016 12:11:58 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Ok, as a percentage of the population what is immigrant crime levels?
I know blacks males between 14-34 make over half of all crime according to Obama’s Justice Department, but what are the other numbers?


70 posted on 09/30/2016 12:13:41 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

CATO Institute wackjob proving that they are the loony libertarians of US politics.

Just read the Wash. Post crime reports daily and you will see that a tremendous amount of crime in the DC/Md and No. Va areas are committed by Hispanics, legal and illegal.

And the idea that just by being here immigrants lower the crime statistics is as stupid a conclusion as I have seen in many decades.

Being here illegal is a crime so the statistics on that issue alone are staggering - in the millions.

Latin American drug cartels are usually made up of illegal immigrants and foreign nationals, not too many native born Americans. So you have a whole section of the drug-trafficking crime industry made up of illegals and foreigners. That is a subset of crime statistics that is staggering as compared to drug cartels from the Amish, Jews, Scandinavians, and Irish Americans (Literally known that I know of).

some people have way too much time on their hands and nothing in their heads.


71 posted on 09/30/2016 12:14:11 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’ve seen a lot of hand waving arguments, but this double combination bank shot into a corner pocket takes the cake.

The rate does not matter. Every crime committed by an illegal immigrant is a crime that would not have occurred if the illegal immigrant was not here.

Now you can make the argument that the creation of a permanent shadow underclass of marginalized sub-minimum wage workers who do not have the protection of the law is a good thing. You can make the argument that the existence of a large pool of quasi-slave second-class citizens benefits society, and that this benefit outweighs the excess crime. But if you did, you would be a dumb-ass libertarian who has lost touch with reality.


72 posted on 09/30/2016 12:18:04 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (The 2nd Amendment immediately follows the 1st because some people are hard of hearing...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Proves the irrelevance and dishonesty of the Cato Institute. Trump has repeatedly said ILLEGALS. Libertarians want their open borders.


73 posted on 09/30/2016 12:19:54 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often <i>a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Trump: “All catchers wear catcher’s mitts”

CATO: “Cricket players catch the ball bare-handed”


74 posted on 09/30/2016 12:25:51 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (The 2nd Amendment immediately follows the 1st because some people are hard of hearing...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Did he say “more” crime? Or did he just point to instances of heinous murder and other crimes?

Shove it Cato.


75 posted on 09/30/2016 12:34:40 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Actually, they ALL commit crimes - every one of them, without any exceptions at all.

They’re here ILLEGALLY, which is, in itself, a crime - something which no one seems quite willing to acknowledge.


76 posted on 09/30/2016 1:23:43 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Undocumented Immigrants” have a 100% crime rate.


77 posted on 09/30/2016 3:21:13 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Why allow black market skittles containing only a few poisonous ones per bag into the country at all?


78 posted on 09/30/2016 3:23:51 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (If Trump loses, America dies)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
David Bier is immigration policy analyst at the Cato Institute

Yeah, right. Wink, wink.

79 posted on 09/30/2016 3:31:46 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

http://www.cato.org/people/david-bier

David J. Bier is an immigration policy analyst at the Cato Institute’s Center for Global Liberty and Prosperity. He is an expert on visa reform, border security, and interior enforcement, and his work has been cited in the Washington Post, New York Times, Wall Street Journal, USA Today, Politico, and many other print and online publications.

From 2013 to 2015, Mr. Bier drafted immigration legislation as senior policy advisor for Congressman Raúl Labrador, a member of the House Judiciary Committee’s Subcommittee on Immigration and Border Security. Previously, he worked as the immigration policy analyst at the Competitive Enterprise Institute and most recently as the director of immigration policy at the Niskanen Center.

Mr. Bier has a B.A. in political science from Grove City College in Pennsylvania.


80 posted on 09/30/2016 3:33:44 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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