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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

[ 1 Timothy 3:2
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; ]

There were married catholic priests until Rome saw them as a threat due to the “family lineage” issue and put pressure on the church for only single men to be priests.


4 posted on 09/27/2016 3:03:15 PM PDT by GraceG (Only a fool works hard in an environment where hard work is not appreciated...)
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To: GraceG

Yes. But I’ll put that one little verse against the cardinal’s whole book and 1000 years of tradition and I win the debate.


6 posted on 09/27/2016 3:12:48 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: GraceG

And some of the Pope’s had mistresses and children.


8 posted on 09/27/2016 3:13:36 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: GraceG
Sme people have made the historic point about celibacy being favored in order to protect ecclesiastical and monastic estates from being divided up and passed off in private inheritances. A relevant point, I think. But even more,the West saw celibacy as a way to avoid all-absorbing political entanglements.

The Church in the West had to wage a protracted struggle against secular power. Bishops and abbots owned estates, whose income constituted the main support of the Church, but as owners of land in the realm, there were constantly pressured to become mere vassals to the king and way too enmeshed with the political nobility. (Look up “Investiture Controversy” and you will see that reforming popes struggled AGAINST this for centuries.)

If a bishop had sons and daughters, he’d be even more deeply caught up in dynastic marriage politics: marrying this daughter to that duke, and this son to that princess, and forming alliances with powerful families for all the political/economic/social benefits that would accrue.

Trying to secure the independence of bishops from the temporal Powers That Be was a huge job. It took a millennium to settle and it’s not what I’d call “settled” even yet. But, for many centuries in the history of the Church, marriages would have forced priests and, even more so, bishops and abbots, to become even more deeply enmeshed in securing titles of nobility, access to estates and lands, royal alliances and the rest of it for all their children.

The Church was trying to steer clear of that whole web of worldly entanglements. Celibacy --- the avoidance of ongoing dynastic interconnections --- became an honorable way to secure more political independence from worldly preoccupations and temporal power, and hence more freedom to be "in this world but not of it."

It has also the value of "eschatological witness," which means they were dramatically demonstrating that they expected to receive full recompense in the next world, not this one. Check out Mark 10:29-30 (Link)

11 posted on 09/27/2016 3:47:54 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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