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A draw.
9/26/2016 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 09/26/2016 8:24:38 PM PDT by Lazamataz

A draw. No major knockout on either side. Trump stood up for himself when necessary. I don't think it will move the needle, and Krauthammer made a good observation: Draws usually go to the challenger, and that is Donald Trump.

If I were to advise Trump, it would consist of the following:

1) Complete your sentences. You are giving the audience too much credit for figuring out what you mean when you shoot off two or three words.

2) Stop repeating the same point 5 or 6 times. You are wasting time.

3) Speak less to broad concepts and more to the common man.

4) Affability matters. Reagan won on affability. Smile a little more, but not with that forced weird smile Hillary plastered on most of the debate. Also, an affable Reaganesque "There you go again"-style phrase, queued up and ready to go when appropriate, would work wonders.

5) Next time, don't leave those hanging slow pitches unswatted. For example, when Hillary talks about your charity, mention her Clinton Foundation that only gives out 6% of it's money to charitable works. Also, speak more about how Hillary is the DC Establishment, and you are there to challenge that. Many people will identify that as a key takeaway.

On the whole I give Hillary high marks, and Trump close but not as good. Stylistically Hillary did very well, but in content Trump nailed it a few times.

However, he needs to take a reality check and prepare more in a structured debate setting. Obama had a HORRIBLE first debate and came back strong. Trump wasn’t horrible, but he needs to come back strong. I know he can do it.


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To: TBP

I heard that as well! Holt said good luck to Clinton, but not to Trump!


141 posted on 09/26/2016 9:06:37 PM PDT by nutmeg (I am a proud Deplorable)
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To: Luircin; JoSixChip; Lazamataz

Only one fool here is picking a fight. And while he may be your friend he has the stink of troll about him.


142 posted on 09/26/2016 9:06:49 PM PDT by Pelham (DLM. Deplorable Lives Matter)
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To: Celtic Conservative

LOL thanks. I’m retiring for the night soon. Kill anyone who lies and calls me a Cruzbot. LOL


143 posted on 09/26/2016 9:07:41 PM PDT by Lazamataz (MSM ignoring Hillary's health until forced, shows us they are the MPM: Ministry of Propaganda Media)
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To: CodeToad
He did good. That’s the ONLY thing undecided voters will remember: Good.

Luntz had the indies breaking hard for Trump. I think that confirms your point.

144 posted on 09/26/2016 9:08:46 PM PDT by Lazamataz (MSM ignoring Hillary's health until forced, shows us they are the MPM: Ministry of Propaganda Media)
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To: JoSixChip
Laz is a Trump supporter, as am I.

Just because some of us are criticizing parts of Trump's performance tonight, and offering suggestions for the next debate does *not* mean we're not on the Trump Train. We're on it... Have no doubt.

145 posted on 09/26/2016 9:10:58 PM PDT by nutmeg (I am a proud Deplorable)
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To: Hostage

He never came across as a bully. She spent a lot of time belittling him and engaging in personal smears. Holt played that angle to some degree as well.

I wish he had responded with more specifics about her shenanigans.

And in light of all the recent focus on her health, I’m waiting for her minions to bring up the numerous times he took drinks of water. Didn’t see her “rehydrate” at all.

Mr. S’SSS and I felt she left a more positive impression than we expected. For viewers who don’t know the truth of who she is, we were concerned. We don’t think Trump lost any supporters tonight but we think she may have influenced some undecideds in her favor. Hopefully, he’ll change that dynamic next time.


146 posted on 09/26/2016 9:11:41 PM PDT by SunshinesStormySummerSon
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To: Pelham
Other than taking one more opportunity to announce your lack of intellect what’s your point, troll?

The argument of an idiot. You and your laz sycophants should find somewhere where you can be alone.
147 posted on 09/26/2016 9:11:52 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Cruz <- sleaze; Clinton <- criminal; Trump <- winner)
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To: JoSixChip

Go to bed.

You’re drunk.

Again.


148 posted on 09/26/2016 9:12:59 PM PDT by Lazamataz (MSM ignoring Hillary's health until forced, shows us they are the MPM: Ministry of Propaganda Media)
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To: Texas Fossil

Great post.


149 posted on 09/26/2016 9:14:27 PM PDT by nutmeg (I am a proud Deplorable)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Hillary offered nothing concrete to convince people that they should vote for her. Trump spoke about the need for lower taxes, fairer trade, and a more favorable business climate to stop the loss of jobs. No one is buying her argument about lowering taxes on the rich.


150 posted on 09/26/2016 9:14:34 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: nutmeg; Texas Fossil

Indeed. I didn’t happen to comment on TF’s post, but it was good. Thanks TF.


151 posted on 09/26/2016 9:16:05 PM PDT by Lazamataz (MSM ignoring Hillary's health until forced, shows us they are the MPM: Ministry of Propaganda Media)
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To: Lazamataz

Trump was being a gentleman and exhibiting self-control when confronted by her bold face lies. He did remind us that she and BO created ISIS. He did confirm that though she has lots of experience, it was all Bad Experience. Furthermore, being a nasty beeotch is not attractive. To anybody.


152 posted on 09/26/2016 9:16:29 PM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: Lazamataz
"I agree with that to the point that it was prominently mentioned in my original article."

And if they gave a Pulitzer prize for FReeper articles, I would nominate you!

153 posted on 09/26/2016 9:17:25 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: SisterK
He did confirm that though she has lots of experience, it was all Bad Experience.

It was actually an applause line! Well done, Mr. Trump.

154 posted on 09/26/2016 9:17:25 PM PDT by Lazamataz (MSM ignoring Hillary's health until forced, shows us they are the MPM: Ministry of Propaganda Media)
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To: Enterprise
You're too kind.

But like anyone who writes, I will find detractors, which are evidenced in this very thread.

Unlike other writers, however, I enjoy playing them like a cat might play a chipmunk. X)

155 posted on 09/26/2016 9:19:00 PM PDT by Lazamataz (MSM ignoring Hillary's health until forced, shows us they are the MPM: Ministry of Propaganda Media)
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To: Lazamataz

Trump missed some solid body blows he could have landed... But on points it was a draw.

But Trump walks away looking reasonable, and that’s all he had to do, so I expect the push polling and gas lighting to tryi to show a Hillary bump, but I see no change to Trumps momentum from thisz


156 posted on 09/26/2016 9:20:34 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Lazamataz
Calling it a draw is charitable to both and about right. Neither looked really good. All eyes were on Clinton to show failing health and instead we have Trump show up with the sniffles. Bad timing!

The debate was too fast pace in my opinion, never time to really talk to an issue. There were so many points I would have expected Trump to pounce on, yet he skipped them. I was surprised at his several "I agree with..."

I'm going to watch it again, and maybe again after that once I read more of what others thought.

And again, a moderator that wanted to be a debater. That is probably the worst part of the whole evening.

157 posted on 09/26/2016 9:20:39 PM PDT by Reno89519 (It is very simple, Trump/Pence or Clinton/Kaine. Good riddance Lyn' Ted, we regret ever knowing you)
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To: HamiltonJay

Agreed. Not a needle-mover.


158 posted on 09/26/2016 9:21:25 PM PDT by Lazamataz (MSM ignoring Hillary's health until forced, shows us they are the MPM: Ministry of Propaganda Media)
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To: JoSixChip

So are you drunk when you post? Or do you have no excuse for the idiocy?


159 posted on 09/26/2016 9:23:30 PM PDT by Pelham (DLM. Deplorable Lives Matter)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

I did NOT like his answer about gun bans for the Terrorist Watch List

I understand and agree.

The problem is a lack of due process. The NRA's position (IIRC) is that if the government puts you on a no-fly list then that person should have the right to have their day in court to try to get off it.

Right now the feds can slap you on the no-fly list with no explanation and no recourse. The Senate Democrats only want an election issue so they absolutely refused to agree to this reasonable (and constitutionally imperative) amendment. So the bill failed to get out of the Senate and the Democrats got their wedge issue: "Those crazy gun-nut Republicans love their guns more than stopping terrorists!"

Trump believes, like many people, that due process protection is absolutely needed for these lists (on pure constitutional grounds if nothing else), but he didn't explain it very well and just said he sided with the NRA on it.

160 posted on 09/26/2016 9:25:57 PM PDT by Gideon7
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