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"As President Obama has pointed out, that isn’t a failing of the city’s gun laws. The problem is that most of the guns used in crimes in Chicago come from neighboring states with lax gun laws."
1 posted on 07/07/2016 8:31:11 AM PDT by granada
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Nothing to do with the fact that Chicago is a city full of criminals and run by criminals.


2 posted on 07/07/2016 8:32:58 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Let’s be frank: There is no “gun problem”.

What there is is a “black violence problem”.

And the solution to black violence is not to disarm law abiding white people, or any law abiding people.


3 posted on 07/07/2016 8:33:59 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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My lib cousin claims folks are simply going to nearby Gary Indiana to buy guns, that Chicago gun laws actually work. Right.


4 posted on 07/07/2016 8:35:06 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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“Often there’s a misimpression about the importance of assault guns and assault weapons, and it’s important to point out how rare that is,” says Phillip Cook, an economist at Duke University who studies underground gun markets.

Cool. Since Democrats aren’t anti-science. We can forget about “assault weapon bans”. That’s a load off my mind.


5 posted on 07/07/2016 8:37:08 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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Has this guy never heard about the Black Market?
No matter what laws are passed against lawful gun owners and dealers, gun runners will always find a source.

6 posted on 07/07/2016 8:38:10 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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If neighboring areas have lax gun laws, why aren’t their crime rates as high as Chicago?


7 posted on 07/07/2016 8:40:33 AM PDT by umgud (ban muslims, not guns)
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If an assault weapon is typically black, then would spray painting a super-soaker black make it an assault weapon?


8 posted on 07/07/2016 8:40:59 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (The reason for Gun Control has always been Government's Fear of Rebellion.)
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“As President Obama has pointed out, that isn’t a failing of the city’s gun laws. The problem is that most of the guns used in crimes in Chicago come from neighboring states with lax gun laws.”

You’d be surprise how many people I gun down in the street due to lax gun laws in my neighboring states. One of my neighboring states is Wyoming so let’s see, how many people have I gunned down out in the street? Oh yeah, ZERO. I guess maybe there is something else, something other than gun laws that determines whether I commit crimes.


9 posted on 07/07/2016 8:42:39 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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Not one Springfield Armoury?


10 posted on 07/07/2016 8:44:04 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Socialists are just communists in their larval stage.)
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Despite having some of the toughest gun regulations of any city in the country, Chicongo continues to record thousands of shootings per year. This is due to tribal warfare. The savages just can't seem to get along with each other.
11 posted on 07/07/2016 8:45:03 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.")
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"A study released last year by the city found that almost 60 percent of firearms recovered at Chicago crime scenes were first bought in states that do not require background checks for Internet or gun show sales, like neighboring Indiana and Wisconsin. Of the remaining crime guns, nearly half were purchased at three gun shops just outside the city."

This statement is quite misleading. Regardless, of where the guns were purchased the overwhelming majority were stolen by either the shooter or someone else who illegally sold it to the shooter. I also note that the places with these supposedly "lax gun laws" don't have near the shooting that Chicago has, so it's not the laws of these states that is the problem.

13 posted on 07/07/2016 8:48:19 AM PDT by circlecity
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It has nothing to do with ‘lax gun laws” in neighborhood states and BO knows it. It has everything to do with a disproportionately high population of human trash. Being human trash himself, BO understandably wouldn't want to bring that fact up.
16 posted on 07/07/2016 8:51:21 AM PDT by VR-21
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What are Chicago criminals’ favorite Italian beef joints? Want to avoid those!


17 posted on 07/07/2016 8:51:38 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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That will always be the excuse. Someplace will have more lax gun laws than the jurisdiction you are in. The socialist will not be happy until all guns are banned and eliminated except the ones that they and their protectors have.


18 posted on 07/07/2016 8:52:16 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men (people) to come to the aid of their country!)
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FTA: “From that hierarchy, a few patterns emerge. The city’s criminals, for instance, prefer semiautomatic pistols to revolvers and generally seek out cheap junk guns.”

Actually the visual chart shows the opposite as far as cheap junk guns*, Bersas, Lorcins, Ravens are not preferred, but S&W, Colt, Ruger are.

*I remember the days of “Saturday night specials”, this is a reprise


19 posted on 07/07/2016 8:52:23 AM PDT by DBrow
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When I first read the headline, I thought maybe it was going to be a list of reccomended firearms for my wish-list. I think I’m already good to go.


21 posted on 07/07/2016 8:54:07 AM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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22 posted on 07/07/2016 8:55:20 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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Smith and Wesson .38... works for me.


24 posted on 07/07/2016 8:56:09 AM PDT by Nachum (ISIS is alive... and Chris Stevens is dead)
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The article contradicts itself by saying that the preference is for “cheap junk” guns but that drug money allows criminals to buy quality guns.

The list of guns shows 50 Lorcins & 40 Ravens. From what little I know about guns, esp the Lorcins, those are the “junk”. The rest are Glocks, SWs, Colts, Rugers, Charter, Bersas and very decent brands. Of course, every manufacturer has some junk models in their line.

But for the most part, I would posit that these are not any better nor worse guns than any other sampling one might find out there, indeed, they might well be better than average.

Plus....these are guns “seized”. They may or may not have been used in crimes.


26 posted on 07/07/2016 8:58:03 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (I apologize for not apologizing.)
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“almost 60 percent of firearms recovered at Chicago crime scenes were first bought in states that do not require background checks”

Rather silly statement, considering that 64% of states do not require a background check for private sales. The vast majority of sales, do require background checks because of federal law.

But background checks do nothing to stop stolen firearms or “strawman” purchasers from obtaining guns for criminals. Those are the main sources for guns used in crime.


29 posted on 07/07/2016 9:05:48 AM PDT by marktwain
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