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To: TangledUpInBlue

Total idiot.

There are a number of things I strongly dislike about Jefferson, but his ownership of slaves wasn’t key among them. There were many slave owners who felt their hands were tied in a number of ways by the prevailing laws and such.

The biggest issue I had against Jefferson was his underhanded whispering campaign against George Washington during his second term which he carried out by anonymous proxy. He spread the word that Washington was tired, mentally feeble, and out of touch, being “manipulated” by Alexander Hamilton. To say Hamilton and Jefferson were enemies, if not bitter enemies, isn’t putting too fine of a point on it.

Washington found out via an unimpeachable source that Jefferson was the one behind it, and let coldly let Jefferson know that he knew, as only Washington could.

After that, the only interaction Washington and Jefferson had was at social functions, and Washington was always icily polite to him. I don’t believe they ever corresponded after that.


20 posted on 07/01/2016 8:39:57 AM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: rlmorel
said, "I had against Jefferson was his underhanded whispering campaign against George Washington"

Washington an Jefferson would have bitter arguments over the Barbary Wars. Washington paid the jizya tax to the Ottomans. Jefferson refused to pay. They could never come to agreement on that issue.

Yes, in the end Jefferson would complain how can it cost to much too stop the Islamic pirates when we're already paying about 10th the cost of the Louisiana purchase Per year?

Jefferson honestly thought Washington was losing his mind for paying the Ottomans.

Also, those pirates would work under a different Islamic flag(country) then the Ottomans when we paid the Jizya so it was a complete waste of money.

93 posted on 07/01/2016 10:47:23 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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