In the main, I find today’s crop of whining women to be the most self-involved and selfish bunch of twits.
And yes, picking apart your spouse for the amusement of others, striping him of humanity and holding him up for all to ridicule is the basest betrayal.
Opus
There is a lot we men could say that would get us banned from this site.
I will say this: men are judged, often harshly, by the women in their lives, because they are being judged by subjective and sometimes shifting criteria by the women. The women set the criteria by which the men are to be judged. Then the women get pissed off when the men do not meet the standards set by the women.
Whether the issue is laundry, housework, doing the dishes, care of the children, taking care of the family finances, grocery shopping, you name it, the woman sets criteria by which she judges her husband. And the husband may not meet the high standards set.
I speak from personal experience, so forgive me if this sounds like an over generalization. I’ve heard plenty from male friends about this very subject. Sometimes we feel that nothing we do is ever good enough to suit her.
We don’t vacuum properly. We don’t do dishes properly. We don’t fold laundry the right way. We buy the wrong brand of spaghetti sauce. We deal with the children differently than she would. All of this and more gets on her nerves.
I will close by saying that for me and men I know, we DO NOT judge our wives based on some list of things we wish she did differently. We are happy to be with her. We just don’t set such standards for house work or other chores of life the way women tend to do.
Guess what? All y’all snowflake ladies that are the True Rugged Independent Americans. More than likely there is a woman out there who would be happy to take him off your hands. In all likelihood even speak well of him. Keep it up and you will find out.
"Kronk come home and complain his feet hurt from hunting all day. I wish I could hang with buddies all day. I am stuck in dark, damp, cave with brats. Krona not understand how hard my life is."
This is so true and it is a therapy, a sounding board. Bonnie Raite has a song that I always thought smart called Woman Be Wise. Woman be wise, keep your mouth shut, don’t advertise your man. Don’t go around bragging about all the good things he really can do. If you talk about your baby, say that he’s so fine, Lord honey I just might get up and try to make him mine. Woman be wise, keep your mouth shut, don’t advertise your man. Treat yourself to the entire set of lyrics. So perhaps women are also using reverse psychology.
I swear she'd get ideas from them to bash me about stuff that didn't used to be a problem in our marriage, until one or more of her friends had whatever as an issue in their own marriages/relationships.
She must have felt left out.
If a man is alone in a forest and his wife is not around to hear him, is he still wrong?
I avoid these kinds of women.
I discovered long ago that no matter how good we men are, women feel the need to constantly announce to everyone that we are somehow always lacking, and yes mates, it’s ALWAYS our fault.
One particular ex- figured out pretty quickly that we were a bit separated on the bell curve, and at first she thought it was outstanding that I was always so knowledgeable and intelligent... but as time went by I discovered that more and more she was portraying everything to show just how clueless I was in her eyes.
Apparently, she became quite insecure about how much more intelligent I was compared to her. Me? I was never concerned about that -I just liked her and enjoyed her company. Having her about just made sense, and I did not judge her on her IQ or even think about it.
And yes, when the relationship fell apart she assured everyone it was All My Fault.
Would she speak that way about her friends? No. Her children? No. Her father? Not likely. If you’re wanting to have a successful marriage, try to find the good things, hold your spouse in high regard. Engaging in idle, negative gossip is not constructive and affects your relationship in subtle and not-so-subtle ways. And, if he really is that bad of a loser, what does it say about the woman who married him?
And this is more an increasing number of men are walking away from the plantation. Why risk literally everything for the hope of having regular sex? Half of all marriages fail, and far more than of those, the divorce is initiated by the woman. On her word alone, with no evidence at all, a man could have his life ruined. Molesting his children, beating his wife, it doesn’t matter; any of those can permanently ruin a man’s life and any hope he has for his future.
Do all of these women work for Manhattan advertising agencies?
Last sentence says it all.
Up to a point, trading war stories is a harmless bonding technique.
And humor sometimes comes with a bit of aggression or hostility toward the “other” who is outside your group. This is why you laugh in the crowd at things you wouldn’t laugh at alone. (And why performers need live audiences.)
But if you feel guilty about it you’re probably crossing the line.
This is a group she should feel proud to be "barred" from. Putting the desire to fit in ahead of her husband is a huge - but all too typical - mistake.
Here’s the problem: they’re only on their second drink. Wait until a few more and everything will be recanted.
Complaining about the husband to other people is the gateway drug to the hard stuff, ie divorce.
You ought to hear what men say about their wives when it’s a guys’ night out ...