Posted on 06/11/2016 8:53:26 AM PDT by samtheman
When the coyotes, four legged and/or two legged, come to raid there homes in the dark they just might begin to see the light.
There is a simple solution to light “pollution” One which the Progressives will gladly embrace.
Regulate electric generation and tax electric consumption.
These steps will take light pollution away from us, as Hillary says, for the common good.
(N B That is Not what our fellow Freepers are recommending)
“You want everyone to adjust to your needs.”
And tell us what this “adjustment” is. This horrid demand that will deprive you of life and liberty.
I hope that people will grow a brain and understand why the night sky, which has played an invaluable part in the development of western civilization and this nation, is still important enough to keep it visible so that generations of Americans don’t have to drive out in the middle of nowhere to see it.
When you can find where I demand people turn off lights or get rid of electricity, then you will have a point.
“And one could live a full and prosperous life without ever know that”
Same ting could be said about:
Owning a gun.
Reading a Bible.
Hunting.
Having people keep score at a kid’s baseball game.
What other things should we stop caring about?
So then I’m not the only person who has shot out a yard light.
My wife thinks I’m absolutely crazy for running across the pasture at night in the UTV with lights off. I can’t see all but I can see enough and I’ve mowed the thing so many times I know where the holes are.
My Dad, a WWII vet, was our Scout Leader. He hated flashlights and encouraged us to become part of the woods and the night. We often camped on top of a mountain with a huge pasture bounded by trees and with scattered trees on it. It was about 3 miles by a mile and a half. One night he showed us just how much one point of light makes and how far sound travels. In a coordinated action a match was lit almost 3 miles away. It was vivid. A metal canteen being unscrewed at the same distance was clearly audible. A pickup tailgate being opened way down on the road sounded like it was a hundred yards away.
The best part of the big field was a group setting up camp for the weekend on each extreme side of the field and playing capture the flag all weekend. That none of us were snake bit or skunk sprayed was a miracle. We also learned how easy it was to see a figure advancing across the field on moonless nights and learned we had to use extreme stealth to advance on our objectives. Thus the crawling for very long distances. What days those were!
It is not a matter of liberal or conservative or controling others it is a matter of social respoinsibility to be conservation minded, respectful of others and good stewards of all that we have. Taking it too far either way is the cause for conflict isn’t it?
It leads me to dispair when people think that being conservative and having freedom equate it with doing anything they want to do no matter what it is just because they want to do it.
I can’t understand the arguments on such things such as this. That the massive wanton illumination of the earth is somehow a right not to be infringed or restrained just becasue it smacks of regulation? It is a fine line isn’t it this thing of over, under, no restraint or regulation? What is wrong with sensible personable responsibility? It is an argument that has gone on for ages.
Basically, people all suck one way or another in the eyes of other people.
“Didn’t the first Spanish explorers call it “The Valley of Smokes”?”
Yes they did. I’m a native to the area. I remember the smog. We had backyard incinerators until the late 50s/early 60s.
The natural weather system, traps air down low, holding the smog in place. The “Inversion Layer,” it is called.
I worked in Monrovia for one year. My secretary said when it gets very hot that the inversion layer releases all of the smog.
Sure enough, she was correct. In the morning it would be very ugly with smog, but mid afternoon it would “burst” and beautiful blue skies, and hot.
That is nature working, not man. It would be cool, to find a record of that weather occurring in early days.
Note the arrival of Cabrillo in 1542, a few years after Jamestown, years before Plymouth.
Note that the Indian population of SoCal was among (or the) largest in the country once.
I mourn the inability to see the night sky because it WAS the closest thing a normal person could get to the INFINITE! Prior to Mr Edison, most people KNEW that there were things far greater than themselves just from seeing that infinite vista at night. I am convinced that the Biblical “What is man that Thou art mindful of him?” came from one who had looked and looked deeply.
Now we have the vast majority who never see that infinite vista and are confined to the man-made horizon. I do not think that this is a good thing!
Global warming?
Liberal rags are increasingly cutting out the comment sections. The Guardian is starting to do it. I imagine in 5 years time it will be totally banned. Can’t take differing viewpoints.
The starving prison camp inmates in North Korea must find the sight of the Milky Way very inspiring.
I’ll take freedom, which created the technology that made it possible for everyone to see the Milky Way on their handheld device, 24/7. Not to mention the Milky Way candy bar.
I lived in Santa Monica and remember the Santa Annas blowing the city smog out to sea, clearing out the city and making the beach all smoggy.
I live in a rural area where I can enjoy the night sky-I am in agreement with both of you, but apparently, simple, sensible conservation of resources and consideration for others is not something a lot of people-particularly in cities-give a damn about-for them it is all about me, me, me, and f*** everyone else...
If someone lives in a city and is lighting up their property like a mall parking lot to discourage thieves, that is fine-but point the light DOWN-last time I heard, criminals don’t fly in to steal stuff-and as for the streetlights, what is so difficult about using the ones that illuminate the pavement-vehicles don’t fly, either-people don’t move to remote areas to smell exhaust fumes, hear sirens 24/7, or have night as bright as day to prevent crime-there is no reason for city illumination to spoil the view of the sky from 50 miles away.
We are very big on conserving resources out here-we conserve our water with raincapture, etc-the county is going to pass outdoor lighting rules soon-the only people who would object are the summer people and other tourists from cities-they object to anything that they feel is inconvenient for them-fortunately, they don’t live here, so they don’t have a say...
Edison’s fault.
Put a slingshot on your Christmas list.
Let’s re-locate the lefty-astronomers to the South Pole. No “Light pollution’ there...
Better yet, North Korea.
Every day, we should all give give a silent “thanks” to the genius of Nikola Tesla.
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