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Bitcoin Is Soaring On Unprecedented Burst In Chinese Buying
Zero Hedge ^ | 29 May 2016 | "Tyler Durden"

Posted on 05/29/2016 5:04:47 PM PDT by oblomov

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1 posted on 05/29/2016 5:04:47 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: oblomov

The advantage of a blockchain currency is that no government can control it.


2 posted on 05/29/2016 5:07:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("During a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" --George Orwell)
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To: oblomov

Maybe all the American short sellers are on vacation and their automatic stop loss orders kicked in.


3 posted on 05/29/2016 5:11:21 PM PDT by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet over to foreign enemies)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I never quite understand the attraction of Bitcoin.

But, also never understand, isn’t the trading in Bitcoin similar to how traders trade in any foreign currency? And depending on their trades, they hope that the Euro, Chinese Yuan(sp?), Japanese Yen, American dollar, or any other, go up or down depending on their trading?

Is trading in Bitcoin just like trading in any other currency or is there more to it?


4 posted on 05/29/2016 5:15:41 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: oblomov

Hurry folks, it’s the perfect time to buy bitcoin while prices are high,high, high! And then when it soon collapses again like it always does, you can panic-sell at low, low prices!

Just keep “investing” your hard-earned dollars until they’re all gone, gone gone!

Catnipman Investment Advisory Services


5 posted on 05/29/2016 5:17:12 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Exactly. If one values individual liberty and Constitutional principles, one should own some cryptocurrency.

In my view, the two most viable cryptocurrencies are Bitcoin and Ethereum.


6 posted on 05/29/2016 5:19:36 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yes, the trading of BTC on an exchange is pretty much like the trading of any other currency, or a stock.

I’m referring to the most widely used and liquid exchanges, such as Bitfinex, Kraken, BTC-E, and Coinbase Exchange. Because of arbitrage, these exchanges converge on a market price with typically small divergences.

The problem with exchanges is that the BTC held in one’s account is not really owned. Several exchanges have simply folded or collapsed, leaving depositors high and dry.

Wallets/buying platforms like Coinbase (not the exchange) and Xapo are a bit different. The account holder has a valid claim of ownership. Also, Coinbase and Xapo use offline cold storage of the BTC to ensure security.

The advantage of BTC is that you can “be your own bank”, as Satoshi Nakamoto famously advocated. One can store BTC in an offline hardware wallet or paper wallet, and this storage is at least as secure as keeping BTC assets in a Coinbase vault.

What if the Central Banks try to crack down on BTC? They could shut down Coinbase, but couldn’t prevent assets from being moved between paper wallets. Or, what if Coinbase is hacked? Assets could be stolen. It would be nearly impossible to hack a paper wallet for which the private key has been kept secure.


7 posted on 05/29/2016 5:39:56 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: oblomov

Hmmm decred


8 posted on 05/29/2016 5:45:04 PM PDT by Therapsid (eagan)
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To: oblomov

Be very careful with this post. Bit coin is a total scam.


9 posted on 05/29/2016 5:53:46 PM PDT by WENDLE (Why is the FBI dilly dallying? LET'S GO!!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

As I said, all national currencies are controlled by governments, who can inflate them. Plus, if you have your currency in a bank account, a government can decide to give you a haircut and take 10% of your money to keep the too-big-to-fail crowd from failing, like Greece. Plus, if the IRS decides to, they can empty bank account because they say you owe them money. Or the FBI can empty your bank account because they say you were “structuring” your deposits to avoid the paperwork involved with deposits over $10,000.

None of that can happen with a chainblock currency. They have no control over it. They can look at the hashed chainblocks, but they can have no idea who owns it, and they have no way of stealing it.

Does that give you an idea of their utility?


10 posted on 05/29/2016 5:54:10 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("During a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" --George Orwell)
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To: WENDLE

Do you have any evidence for that claim, or do you just “feel” that bitcoin is a “total scam?”

Do you know what a blockchain is?

If you don’t, then you are acting like a Democrat and demagoging something you know absolutely nothing about.


11 posted on 05/29/2016 6:05:27 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("During a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" --George Orwell)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

There will be a maximum of 21 million bitcoins.

It’s a novelty.


12 posted on 05/29/2016 6:14:38 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: oblomov
There is a certain comical feature to Bitcoin.

Its “value” can only be measured in easily traded - and highly regulated - sovereign currencies.

Bitcoin’s greatest strength - total secrecy - is also its greatest weakness.

If there is no verifiable transaction history, how do you legally “prove” ownership, or pay an employee, or discharge a debt?

If I buy your house for 1,000 Bitcoins, and you claim the money never arrived in your account, how do either one of us prove the transaction did - or did not - take place?

I could be lying about sending the money. Or, you could be lying about not receiving the money. Or, the payment may have been incorrectly routed. Or, the transaction may have been hacked.

Who knows? And how do you prove it? And how do you get an enforceable judgment?

13 posted on 05/29/2016 6:25:03 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: WENDLE

Just like every other currency. The main difference between bitcoin and seashells or FRNs is the inflation of the currency was precisely defined in advance. There is no committee of political hacks deciding how much to print. Nor is there a potential undiscovered source like there would be with seashells.


14 posted on 05/29/2016 6:25:39 PM PDT by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet over to foreign enemies)
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To: zeestephen
The only way your can transfer the value of your bitcoin to me is by signing a transaction with your private key. As long as you have retained control over that key you will be fine. I will be fine too because your signature on the transaction can be verified with the public key. That could all be done for decades since the invention of PKI but the nice thing with bitcoin is that there are incentivized miners who will make sure the transaction is recorded.

But even if there were no miners, the fact that you signed a transaction with your private key is proof of the transfer of any value associated with that private key.

15 posted on 05/29/2016 6:29:43 PM PDT by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet over to foreign enemies)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The advantage of a blockchain currency is that no government can control it.

The disadvantage is that EVERY SINGLE TRANSACTION is completely traceable. You cannot keep transactions anonymous - ever. And that's by design. Using a few $20 is untraceable; using a Bitcoin is totally traceable.

16 posted on 05/29/2016 6:31:47 PM PDT by Shanghai Dan
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To: TexasGator
They are beanie babies. But instead of making 70 million beanie babies a year which are easy to ounterfeit, there are only 21 million as you said. Unlike beanie babies they all keep their transactional value and then some, and the transaction value has held firm. Here are a few examples: http://www.coindesk.com/10-physical-bitcoins-good-bad-ugly/
17 posted on 05/29/2016 6:34:54 PM PDT by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet over to foreign enemies)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
>i?The advantage of a blockchain currency is that no government can control it.

Government controls the internet, which is the means of exchange.

18 posted on 05/29/2016 6:37:31 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: TexasGator

So I take it you’ve never heard of decimals?

And that you prefer a currency that the government can print until it’s worthless?


19 posted on 05/29/2016 6:59:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("During a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" --George Orwell)
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To: oblomov

My money is tied up in Unobtanium and Impossibilium. The only source of these precious elements is the wild mountains of Trashcanistan.


20 posted on 05/29/2016 8:03:36 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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