Posted on 05/09/2016 10:43:00 AM PDT by rktman
Just trying to compare a .22 with a .223 shows me you are a rank amateur and probably should not even own a gun.
It’s like—should I buy a Moped or a 1/2 tons Chevy PU? Both will get you to work.
For serious house defense a KSG or a Super Shorty.
“For the average non military CQ Combat trained shooter, neither is good for home defense.”
Military CQB is not as good as what civilians and decent police departments get. Never has been. It is just that they have a very different task that they ARE good at. But they operate far removed from the legalities a cop or homeowner will have to know.
Might I suggest you put up a piece of dry wall and stand off 15 feet and fire it with your #6 shot. Do not put anything that you value behind that piece of drywall.
Birdshot is devastating at any household range.
Excuse me?
Was that directed at me?
I know a cop who shot a perp six times with a .38 at about 6 feet. Every shot hit the target. The 6th shot took him down. He lived.
I have fired loads of frangibles and they do a fine job of disintegrating on more than metal or stone.
Wood, fibreglass, windshield glass, sometimes drywall.
Your mileage may have varied.
Everything I've read says at anything much past point-blank range, birdshot makes a very messy but shallow wound, unlikely to stop a determined attacker.
Just as an aside, I've had chats with guys re: guns and stuff over the years here but just to let you know I'm from a military family (home schooled) with some LEO's thrown in here and there. Just about every time we have a BBQ the chatting goes from music to planes and eventually guns ... all sorts of scenarios ... my last birthday the folks bought me a Ruger Mini30 ... added to my Marlin .45 carbine and my M1 .30 carbine. We hunt, we shoot.
Yes. I agree.
In my neck of the woods home invasions are almost unheard of. If it happens, it is usually drug related (as in, Party A was supposed to give Party B some money for drugs. And they are shorted...home invasion and “bang, bang.”)
I live in an affluent suburb of an armpit. If TSHTF, they might rise up out of the city and come at us. If that is the case, I am pretty sure the “normal rules” don’t apply.
My son in law is a State Trooper. I should ask him to teach me some of their tactics. I know they have a whole “warehouse” set up with pop up targets and what not. It sounded like a lot of fun.
If you hear someone in your house go out the window and set up an ambush in the front yard for when they leave. Or call the cops which takes the fun out of it.
I built my home from thousands of aircraft “black boxes” and configured them into a wonderful residence. It is everythingproof! ;-)
Suppressed sub sonic ammo?
Sorta depends where you live...
Taurus Judge revolver, Winchester PDX1 ammo ... no fuss, no muss, and no complaints ... ever.
I used to have a brace of those! My God, how I do miss them. I felt sooo much safer. I knew at MINIMUM they would alert me and keep a bad guy busy long enough for me to steady myself. What a luxury to have.
Lost my last one a year ago next week. 13 1/2 years old he was - very well aged for the breed. *sigh*
I have not felt safe one day since then, no matter what I have at my disposal. Reminds me that I need to go practice A LOT.
If he’s in my neck of Vermont - we don’t have ‘cops’. The sheriff’s contract support ends at 2300 and the State Police don’t come on duty until 0600. Seven hours is a lot of time.
00 Buck in an over/under.
Only way to go.
And what do you do when the third guy opens up on you?
The shooter used “explosive” ammo. All failed except the one that nailed Jim Brady. The exploding bullet exploded when it hit his skull and if NORMAL ammo had been used it would have penetrated his brain and killed him.
Interesting.
So their slogan can be:
“when seconds count, law enforcement can be hours away”
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