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Free Republic 2016 Caucus Open Discussion Thread XCVI
Free Republic ^ | 23 April 2016 | Windflier

Posted on 04/23/2016 9:01:58 PM PDT by Lonely Bull

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To: fireman15
Thanks for the very good summary.

I have posted this before, however it is something everyone should read in regards to opinion shaping on the internet. It is still going on today with the toilet obsessions.

COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum..
21 posted on 04/23/2016 10:52:30 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: fireman15

Thank you for your comments.

I know I appreciate them very much. I’m sure WindFlier and Lonely Bull do as well.

You addressed some issues I’d given thought to, but a little differently, so I appreciated reading them.

Take care...

D1


22 posted on 04/23/2016 11:33:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Ted, why are you taking one for the RNC/GOPe team, and not ours? Not that we don't know.)
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To: Windflier; Lonely Bull

Thank you WindFlier. I appreciated you and Lonely Bull pitching in to help out. The after vote Caucus Discussion thread was a good idea, and Lonely Bull’s idea of presenting organized links from the thread was also a great idea.

Shows that any effort looks better when people volunteer to make it better.

You took up a cause and dedicated yourselves to it.

I think that was very nice of you.

D1


23 posted on 04/23/2016 11:38:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Ted, why are you taking one for the RNC/GOPe team, and not ours? Not that we don't know.)
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To: DoughtyOne
You addressed some issues I’d given thought to, but a little differently, so I appreciated reading them.

I believe that your work was more important to Free Republic than anyone realizes. There are many features of the site that cause it to be less easily manipulated than other forms of social media, largely the efforts of moderators who do their very best to keep things under control. I think that I saw every trick in the book being used by Cruz operatives this time around. This included almost diabolically sneaky tactics in some cases. I think that this dishonest activity is what they call a “better ground game”.

This behavior from a few caused a lot of problems and confusion. I think without the reference point you provided with the nightly caucus results, what was actually going on would have been much more difficult for anyone to figure out. I felt that the future of Free Republic was being threatened by trained operatives from a well funded campaign who really could not care less about the community here. I truly believe that anyone who cares about the future of the Free Republic owes you more than they realize.

24 posted on 04/24/2016 9:00:11 AM PDT by fireman15 (The USA will be toast if the Democrats are able to take the Presidency in 2016)
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To: fireman15

Their ground game cannot withstand the bleach of sunlight.


25 posted on 04/24/2016 9:04:11 AM PDT by going hot
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To: fireman15

Your perspective is appreciated.

I’d rather not comment further on the caucus until it is over.

I welcome the supporters of the remaining candidates to participate if they want to.

D1


26 posted on 04/24/2016 9:08:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Ted, why are you taking one for the RNC/GOPe team, and not ours? Not that we don't know.)
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To: PA Engineer

I saw your link to COINTELPRO previously and am fairly sure that every dirty tactic mentioned was being employed here at one point or another. I have been here through several election seasons and never felt that the integrity of the site was threatened as much as this time around. This is what some people call a “better ground game”.

Most the people here started out supporting Cruz. One would think that the Cruz campaign team would have viewed this site as a natural ally and taken a hands off approach. But that was not the case and I felt the very existence of the site was under threat.

It felt like any effort the moderators made to keep things civil was met with open rebellion. Some of it was so blatantly contrived that it might have been humorous if the actual effort was not intended to destroy the credibility of the site. Somehow in the face of all this the moderators managed to hold things together, but I am sure their job would have been much more difficult if they were not aware of the numbers provided by the nightly caucus results.


27 posted on 04/24/2016 9:13:51 AM PDT by fireman15 (The USA will be toast if the Democrats are able to take the Presidency in 2016)
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To: DoughtyOne

I understand completely. However, I could never express my gratitude adequately for your efforts.


28 posted on 04/24/2016 9:16:30 AM PDT by fireman15 (The USA will be toast if the Democrats are able to take the Presidency in 2016)
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To: fireman15; DoughtyOne; Lonely Bull; Windflier; PA Engineer
Very interesting observation, which I hadn't considered and I'll tell you why. In the beginning, I was solidly for Cruz and I watched his ping list grow by leaps and bounds, but the participation on Cruz threads was minimal. As the holder of Sarah Palin's ginormous Ping List for several years, I knew straight away that Cruz's support "just wasn't there." Sarah Palin articles would get up to 10 times the activity and she wasn't running!

Then came Mr. Donald Trump's announcement and BAM! ... Cruz's support still sat still until a couple of trolls as described in PAEngineer's link started posting articles 24/7. One, whose screen name I never bothered to memorize, (initials were GGG), was definitely a forum disruptor. He could have been successful but for his extremely nasty behavior. He let his temper get the better of him which made him an easy target for the much smarter and much more informed here ...LOL.

I do agree with you, fireman15, that D-1's Caucus provided Free Republic with an invaluable service and a most enlightening set of facts. Likewise Lonely Bull's charts and Windflier's threads: magnificent!

We cannot praise these three enough!


29 posted on 04/24/2016 10:35:57 AM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: onyx

Yes, the person with the initials GGG was an interesting character. The unusual activity this year was far more obvious at places like news outlets that allows comments. Breitbart is one example. These places will have literally 10,000 comments on something fairly inconsequential. They will be flooded with so much bot traffic that an actual conversation is impossible.

We also have regulars such as 2DVet who have been here for many years and have gotten very active in the Cruz campaign this year. He is much more effective than people like GGG because he tirelessly starts threads, but doesn’t generally get into shouting matches with anyone. He is a very smart guy and I have enjoyed his threads and posts for many years. We need people who have different perspectives. We just don’t need people who use seminar tactics to manipulate the discussions.


30 posted on 04/24/2016 11:12:24 AM PDT by fireman15 (The USA will be toast if the Democrats are able to take the Presidency in 2016)
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To: fireman15

Agreed with all you posted. A handful of ops took over the forum.


31 posted on 04/24/2016 12:03:51 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: onyx
I do agree with you, fireman15, that D-1's Caucus provided Free Republic with an invaluable service and a most enlightening set of facts. Likewise Lonely Bull's charts and Windflier's threads: magnificent!

We cannot praise these three enough!


Agreed.
32 posted on 04/24/2016 12:14:38 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: onyx; fireman15; DoughtyOne; Lonely Bull; Windflier; PA Engineer

Well said! I could not agree more, onyx.


33 posted on 04/24/2016 12:18:07 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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