[Lakeshark]

I don't consider somebody who has filed for bankruptcy 4 times, 'a winner'

I guess I don't consider someone who actually believes that to be particularly well informed either.

You might want to look up what Chapter 11 means, what it does, and how it works.

Trump has never once "filed for bankruptcy". His company is well run, the companies within in it are strong, and he's built quite a fine legacy.

On the other hand, his main opponent has never actually accomplished much of anything, but that's another conversation in and of itself. That's a different kind of bankruptcy. Trump at least is 99+% successful in what he has done.

[sargon]

I don't consider somebody who has filed for bankruptcy 4 times, 'a winner'

LOLBOOM!

In addition to other Presidents such as Ulysses S. Grant, Thomas Jefferson went bankrupt several times. I'd consider him 'a winner'...

[Cvengr]

Tell that to his creditors.