[Cboldt]

Won’t be long and the primary sources will be scrubbed too. FAM is a secondary authority at best.

[thecodont]

Good catch. Why did this happen?

[dynoman]

Wow, interesting.

[Yashcheritsiy]

I remember pointing out this very section to someone a couple of months ago.

[Dalberg-Acton]

To qualify, one needs to be born in the United States of TWO US citizen parents.

[2ndDivisionVet]

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

Today I discovered that the reason I could not find a section of the Nationalization Statues is because the section had been scrubbed. This is not an accident. The section removed had confirmed that the interpretation of the State Department based on the Constitution and relevant case law was that Naturalization did not convey natural born status for Constitutional purposes.

Okay, assuming you meant "statute" rather than "statue", this is simply wrong factually.

What you are describing is not a "statute" at all. Statutes are codified U.S. law, and they don't get "scrubbed". There are a myriad copies of the U.S. code in hardcover and all over the web. The statute relevant for citizenship is 8 U.S.C. Section 1401, and here is a direct link to it:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401

The part of 8. U.S.C. 1401 relevant to Senator Cruz is subsection(g), which includes as "nationals and citizens of the United States at birth" the following:

(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years:

What you are claiming has been "scrubbed" is the "Foreign Affairs Manual", which is an internal guidance document for the Department of State that had zero value legally.

[WhiskeyX]

Why do you say it has been scrubbed?
The links on the Website have been broken for more than a year or few years now, I don’t recall just how long at present. To reach the webpages you have to know how to maneuver around to the still valid web page/s.

[gaijin]

So on the RESPONSIBILITY side (tax), you are American FOREVER. Or at least until you jump through a very many expensive hoops.

On the privilege side?

Then your ancestor could have been on the Mayflower, and you were the Football Team Captain and you’re not ONE micrometer more American than the Paki trading his passport in for a BLUE one.

[WENDLE]

That is breath takingly important. Let me assure all Cruzers. Your candidate is ineligible. It is being downplayed and covered up to lure him into the nomination where he will be immediately eliminated LEGALLY!! WAKE TH UP!!

[centurion316]

Are you on the duty roster for the Birther Crowd? Bad luck that you caught a weekend.

People who can’t read law and don’t understand the difference between the statute and a government manual. The law has been easily found at any number of sites. I’ve seen this manual repeatedly, but haven’t bothered to visit in some time.

You might want to refer to the recent court decision in Pennsylvania and Judge Pellegrina decided that Cruz was eligible and that Citizens by birth (language in the statute) is identical to “Natural Born Citizen”. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court affirmed the lower court decision and declined to hear the oral argument of the appeal. The decision of the State Supreme Court was Per Curiam which means that the Court declined to write an opinion and usually means that the decision was unanimous. These Latin words can be used when the decision is noncontroversial. The court apparently was not impressed with the original suit and even less with the appeal.

This is the first time that a court has directly ruled on Presidential Eligibility, so it will certainly be appealed and my guess, SCOTUS will not hear the dispute. That will mean that the statute will stand (U.S.C 8 Section 1401 and those citizens by birth as defined by Section 1401 will also be Natural Born Citizens.

This issue is over.

[kinsman redeemer]

Today I discovered that the reason I could not find a section of the Nationalization Statues...

I think I know what's wrong...

[freedomjusticeruleoflaw]

It is as I have said for a year. Cruz is not eligible... Period.

[faithhopecharity]

naturalization of an alien does NOT confer constitutional NBC, period.
does not matter one whit what some agency thinks or does with its website now, 200 years on, or how much its toadies may wish to cover up for the current (or any future) illegal occupants of our WH. Still changes nothing.

ps: maybe someone should tell Obama that
(”1984 was supposed to be a warning, not a guide book...”)

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[iontheball]

All the manuals, all the statutes, all the politicians in the House and Senate, all the lawyerly dissertations, can not change, modify, amend or obliterate the U.S. Constitution, period. Only the now liberal bent U.S Supreme Court can rule on the meaning of natural born citizen. Beyond the Court ruling, the only other method is through the lengthy prescribed Constitutional amendment process.

[WildHighlander57]

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[Faith65]

bkmk

[LucyT]

Check out article, # 9 , -- esp # 14 ,

and # 15 .

[PA Engineer]

Bookmarked. BTTT.