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To: conservativejoy

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“Donald Trump has vowed to donate the donations he receives tonight to the Trump Foundation to veterans groups. But a look at The Donald J. Trump Foundation’s history of giving shows that the organization has given a small percentage of its donations to veterans groups.

Since 2010, Trump has donated just $75,000 to veterans groups, according to the foundation’s 990 forms that donated $5 million during the same time.

In 2014, the year his foundation donated the most amount of money to vets groups, the foundation gave $10,000 to the Green Beret Foundation, $5,000 to K9s for Warriors and $5,000 for Special Operations Warrior Foundation. in 2013, the group donated $15,000 to The Independence Fund and in 2010, his foundation gave $25,000 to Fisher House. “

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-foundation-has-given-little-vets-groups-n506341


5 posted on 04/09/2016 7:09:43 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

So is this a kudos or a komplaint?


11 posted on 04/09/2016 7:13:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: TexasGator

Here are my replies from that thread to which you have referred:


Did Donald Trump Profit off the Amputees?
In light of Donald Trump’s record in which he has been accused of fraud by his students at Trump University in a class-action suit, tenants in his building in which multiple plaintiffs claim fraud, and purchasers of condominiums in his buildings in a suit in which Donald Trump has recently paid hush money, it is not unreasonable to ask whether Donald Trump actually profited at the expense of our veterans with whom Trump gained millions of dollars of publicity for his campaign.

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raising cash and cheating the worthy cause of the proceeds is certainly reason to dislike such a grifter. Previous allegations of fraud against Donald Trump are relevant. Nevertheless, even with the benefit of all the allegations against Donald Trump which I have specified and many many more, I made no allegations of fraud on his part, I simply asked the question.

Even apart from fraud, the specter of gross hypocrisy is raised as Trump claimed time and again in the debates and otherwise that he was raising millions for veterans. I think our veterans and the voting public are all entitled to a full and open accounting from Trump.

Just as countless Trump supporters have done respecting Ted Cruz and Goldman Sachs-come to think of it they go beyond posing a question, they flat-out assert wrongdoing.

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The reported numbers beg the question, what happened to the rest of the money?
Donald Trump’s highly questionable dealings in which he has been repeatedly accused of fraud, beg for an accounting at minimum .


Let’s see, you imply:
The story is not about the missing money.

The story is not about the series of allegations over the years of fraud lodged against Donald Trump.

The story is not about the hush money Donald Trump paid yesterday to buy the silence of those who sued him for fraud.

The story is not about the need for an accounting by Trump.

No, the story is all about me.


The judges are not fools. If the plaintiff complained that the market turned on them those judges would’ve dismissed the case in a heartbeat but they did not so complain, they alleged misrepresentations.
They did not complain of the market, they complained of fraud done by Trump. Just as condo buyers did (whose silence Trump just bought).


Yes I do give a damn whether the President of the United States of America whose fingers will be figuratively only inches away from the red button is a liar, a cheat, and a grifter.


While the chance that Donald Trump personally profited, or even attempted to profit, from fraud respecting these veterans is probably remote, it is quite possible that the accounting was sloppy, or the expenses which were deducted from the veterans portion were inflated, or there is simply inertia in the bookkeeping process.
Trump’s history of being accused of outright fraud and sharp dealings entitles him to no deference in this matter and screams out for an accounting.

In any event, these questions are certainly relevant in judging a candidate one of whose planks is that he will clean up the Veterans Administration. If he cannot manage one simple event why are we then to believe that he can reform and manage the vast veterans administration?


My evidence? Why do you presume to put a burden on me to provide evidence? I explicitly stated “I make no allegations of fraud… I simply asked the question”
All of this was plainly stated in the reply to which you are responding:

Previous allegations of fraud against Donald Trump are relevant. Nevertheless, even with the benefit of all the allegations against Donald Trump which I have specified and many many more, I made no allegations of fraud on his part, I simply asked the question.

Let us assume that Donald Trump is innocent of committing personal fraud in this affair. We do not know if any fraud of any kind has been committed or, if so, by whom. It does, however, raise questions of competency. Where is the money? Where is an accounting?

Is there simply inertia in producing an accounting? Is there sharp dealing by the Trump campaign in inflating expenses thus reducing the share for the veterans? How was all of this handled? Were expenses even deducted, if so how much?

At the very least, questions of hypocrisy are raised and certainly questions of competency: Donald Trump has bragged that he will clean up the Veterans Administration yet it appears that he cannot even competently manage one single event on behalf of veterans.

Let’s get the accounting and see what happened. Meanwhile in view of this fiasco and in view of serial charges of fraud and bankruptcy, Donald should shut the hell up about how he is going to fix the Veterans Administration.


30 posted on 04/09/2016 7:35:07 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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