five of nine shot in the head, those boys must put in a hell of a lot of range time...
Posted on 04/06/2016 3:01:09 PM PDT by don-o
It's been nearly a year since nine bikers were killed in a chaotic shootout between the Cossacks and Bandidos gangs at a Twin Peaks restaurant in Waco, and we still don't know much about what happened or who did what. And while 177 bikers were arrested at the scene, we still don' t even totally know which ones will be charged with a crime.
A Waco grand jury handed out 106 indictments in November — a full six months after the shooting — and announced 48 more indictments last month. The indicted bikers were all charged with engaging in organized criminal activity, so it's pretty clear investigators remain unsure who fired the fatal gunshots, otherwise we'd probably see a few murder charges. When the District Attorney's office announced the first round of indictments, it got the number of dead wrong, claiming ten people were killed instead of nine. At least it was able to get that cleared up the second time around.
Whether there will be a third round of indictments is unclear. There are 38 more bikers who were arrested and have yet to be charged. No one seems to be able to agree on what their status is. Houston lawyer Paul Looney, who represents three of the bikers arrested in May, told the Houston Chronicle that all possible charges are automatically dropped against the remaining non-indicted bikers because the grand jury has apparently passed the agreed-upon deadline to hand out indictments in the case. "It timed out," Looney told the Chron on Friday. "Pop the champagne."
(Excerpt) Read more at houstonpress.com ...
it will probably be sealed
Maybe. More like it will not come out in time to do anything about it.
cops here in Texas do not go to jail, they were protecting the public dontcha know
And each other's careers. This is the most corrupt smelling thing I have ever seen coming out of Texas since Lyndon Baines Johnson.
I think at some point this will go Federal, and then that seal will come off.
To be honest, I live in Texas, even though the locals, swat, Rangers and feds had them staked out this will be a big cover up to protect all the gov employees and you heard it here first all charges will be dropped against the cyclists
hm wonder why? maybe most of the deaths were via the gov.
nah no way
I believe that is actually a reasonable possibility. To go forward implicates people they don't want implicated.
hm wonder why? maybe most of the deaths were via the gov.
This is what I think too.
“I shall not be surprised to discover that all fatalities were caused by .556.”
Average fatality of handgun rounds that hit—25%. About 30% of handgun rounds actually hit their target in a gun fight. That means about 120 rounds would have to be fired from handguns to produce nine expected fatalities.
OTOH, .556 fired by folks standing off at 50-100 yards and aiming with optics would produce nine fatalities with many fewer shots. Maybe with nine shots—maybe fewer given the penetration properties of .556. Fifty yards to center of mass is an easy shot with an AR.
Glad you asked.
From the Autopsy reports:
Manuel Issac Rodriguez, 40, Allen, one gunshot wound in the head and one in the back. Head: Medium Caliber NOT from police .223; Back: Medium Caliber NOT from police .223
Matthew Mark Smith, 27, Keller, one gunshot wound in the back and one in the abdomen.
Back: Medium Caliber NOT from police .223; Abdomen: Not Determined
Jesus Delgado Rodriguez, 65, New Braunfels, one gunshot wound to the head and one in the back. Head: Medium Caliber NOT from police .223; Trunk: Undertermined
Richard Matthew Jordan II, 31, Pasadena, one gunshot wound to the head. Head: Medium Caliber NOT from police .223
Richard Vincent Kirschner Jr., 47, Wylie, one gunshot wound to the top of the head, one to the left knee and one in the buttocks. Knee: Medium Caliber NOT from police .223; Buttocks: Small Caliber .223 or .22
Wayne Lee Campbell, 43, Fort Worth, one gunshot wound to the head. Trunk: Small Caliber .223 or .22
Daniel Raymond Boyett, 44, Waco, shot two times in the head. Head: Medium Caliber NOT from police .223; Abdomen: Medium Caliber NOT from police .223; Head: Undetermined
Charles Wayne Russell, 46, Tyler, shot once in the chest. Chest: Small Caliber .223 or .22
Jacob Lee Rhyne, 39, Ranger, shot once in the neck and once in the abdomen.Neck: Undertermined; Abdomen: Undetermined
Spaz. Arm: Not Available ... yet!
“I wonder how many of the fatal shots were .556 rounds as opposed to handgun rounds?”
See my #27.
“I shall not be surprised to discover that all fatalities were caused by .556. “
See my #27.
“They came up really fast, and the prospect turned and faced the bikes,” the Cossack chapter president said. “He fell backward into other [parked] bikes. The guy who hit him stopped and got off of his bike and said, ‘What are you doing? Get . . . out of my way. We’re trying to park.’ ”
Cossacks quickly jumped to the prospect’s defense, he said: “Guys were saying, ‘You’re disrespecting us,’ or, ‘We’re not backing down.’ ”
In a blink, it started, he said: “Two punches: One from them, one from us.” A Bandido with a patch identifying him as sergeant-at-arms of the same chapter threw a punch at Richard Matthew Jordan II, 31, known as “Richie,” who was from Pasadena, Tex. Jordan punched the guy back.
“At that point in time, the sergeant in arms shot Richie point-blank,” the Cossack said.
Police said Jordan died of a gunshot wound to the head.
“Then all the Bandidos standing in the parking lot started pulling guns and shooting at us,” he said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/richie-died-then-diesel-then-dog-an-eyewitness-to-the-waco-biker-brawl/2015/05/23/00db6436-1a8a-469b-9d6f-d2283234d281_story.html
” Clubs, even of eeeeeeeeevil bikers, don’t want melees any more than you or I do.”
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Faced with the choice between a potential death penalty and freedom, some Texas members of the Bandidos biker club charged in last weekend’s deadly shootout can be expected to start talking with investigators, police say.
And that could shed fresh light on the role top American bikers may have played in the slaughter of eight Toronto-area bikers in 2006.”
five of nine shot in the head, those boys must put in a hell of a lot of range time...
“five of nine shot in the head, those boys must put in a hell of a lot of range time... “
Easy to hit the head when you are only a few feet away or bending over a person on the ground ...
watch the (most likely cop) video in #2, looks like everybody was hauling ass not standing around doing headshots
May 2015. Bueller.....Bueller....
“watch the (most likely cop) video in #2, looks like everybody was hauling ass not standing around doing headshots “
If you look at the video, there are a bunch in the melee that are NOT running but still fighting in close quarters ...
fighting, not standing over somebody shooting them in the head
This lady probably regrets her text messages.
“An arrest complaint says during the investigation of the Twin Peaks shooting, text messages to and from Howell from March 2015 were found on a phone belonging to a gang member charged in the shooting.”
“fighting”
At least you are acknowledging that the gangs were fighting ...
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