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Ted Cruz supporters at this point are voting for the GOP Establishment to Choose the nominee.
self / opinion ^ | 4/1/2016 | Jack Black

Posted on 04/01/2016 8:41:50 AM PDT by Jack Black

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To: Just mythoughts

“The words above sound like a bought and paid for Soros snowflake plant.”

If that were the case, then wouldn’t I be supporting Kasich?


61 posted on 04/01/2016 9:29:27 AM PDT by Durbin
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To: Iowa David

Of course I’m not going to just go home and not fight for Cruz. It was sarcasm. I’m just playing along with what the article is saying.


62 posted on 04/01/2016 9:31:32 AM PDT by Durbin
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To: BJ1

For all those carrying the water and attacking the Threat to Soros, MSM, Democrats and Establishment globalists please use common sense. Clinton has paid for people to protest Trump, So has Bernie,so has the Establishment and the MSM is 24/7 trying to destroy him. Soros is funding one of his GOP opponents. THEY WOULD NOT DO THAT IF HE WAS ONE OF THEM.

Do they do that with each other or your guy? No. So stop buying the lies hes one of them, you are being used by what you claim to be fighting against.


63 posted on 04/01/2016 9:33:07 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Attend a Trump Rally and get to "Punch a Commie for Mommy.")
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To: Durbin

sorry. I was in my literal reading mode


64 posted on 04/01/2016 9:34:49 AM PDT by Iowa David (Cruz 2016 - Before it's too late)
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To: InterceptPoint
Here are some facts that seem to me to be applicable: There are 2472 delegates to the GOP Convention. 57% of these or something over 1400 are free to vote however they like after the 1st ballot. Question: How many of these delegates do you believe are controlled by the GOPe?

Interesting.

So 43% of the delegates ARE required to vote for their candidate after the first round. I have not heard that. Source?

And of those 57% of the delegates, what percentage are candidate loyalists who were picked by their candidate and what percentage are GOPe loyalists who were picked by their local parties?

65 posted on 04/01/2016 9:35:01 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Jack Black

Exactly,
Cruz will NEVER be the candidate unless the GOP-e decides that Loosing big in 2016 will keep them in power.


66 posted on 04/01/2016 9:36:18 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Iowa David

You’re delusional. Even if he wins WI outright, Cruz is mathematically eliminated after NY. And he’s going to get killed in the northeast.

Hes done. Deal with it.


67 posted on 04/01/2016 9:36:19 AM PDT by Velvet_Jones
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To: Durbin
“The words above sound like a bought and paid for Soros snowflake plant.”

If that were the case, then wouldn’t I be supporting Katich?

There must be a purposeful reason for the screen name, but, to me when I read it I think Soros... Thus words flowing from Durbin are instantly suspect. Cruz is Katich and Katich is Cruz ... GOPe through and through. So stay home as you said you intend to do.

68 posted on 04/01/2016 9:36:59 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: BJ1; pgkdan
BJI: If your new argument is the establish hates Cruz, than Cruz can’t be one of them. Just saying.

I'm not saying he's one of them. I'm saying that Cruz has no chance to win the nomination on the first ballot. So his only hope is that he will win in an open convention.

From his point of view the open convention give him some hope of ending up the nominee. A Trump victory in the delegate race gives him no hope.

So, in desperation, he's decided to play the spoiler and force the open convention.

The GOP Establishment fully supports the Open Convention, and appreciate Ted Cruz in his role as spoiler, while still not actually liking the guy or wanting him to be President.

Look at Romney - he tells people in different states to vote for Cruz or Kasich as purely a tactic to deny Trump. He could care less about either of them. There are a lot of GOP Establishment types doing the same.

Even Cruz doesn't think these are real supporters of his, or that they will continue to support him once he's served his purpose of denying Trump a first ballot victory.

69 posted on 04/01/2016 9:38:19 AM PDT by Jack Black ( "Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide")
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To: BJ1
The media are campaigning 24/7 against Trump. This isn't a coincidence.

Lets be honest. Cruz was never the “outsider” he proclaimed himself to be. An outsider wouldn't allow such distinguished people as Lindsey Graham, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, and Carly Fiorina into his campaign. In addition, I'm fairly sure Karl Rove is on-board as well.

Seeing that the above folks are all part of the establishment, they wouldn't want an actual Conservative as the nominee.

That's not a contradiction.

70 posted on 04/01/2016 9:39:50 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Jack Black

The Republican nominee will Cruz, Trump or Kasich. Choosing a standard-bearer who has not campaigned all the way through the primaries would be unacceptable to the GOP’s rank and file.


71 posted on 04/01/2016 9:41:13 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Jack Black

Yes, I agree with that assessment. I wish it were not so but there it is.


72 posted on 04/01/2016 9:41:58 AM PDT by protest1
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To: Durbin

“You’re right, us Cruz voters should just give up and go home and stay there till the elections are over in November”

At this point, it wont look much more different than the open selling out to the GOPe, so most people wont notice.


73 posted on 04/01/2016 9:42:40 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: deltanine
If your new argument is the establish hates Cruz, than Cruz can’t be one of them. Just saying.

The GOPe needs Cruz to stay in and continue to win delegates. If Cruz dropped out today then Trump would definitely get to 1237 and win on the first ballot.

I'm sure it's deeply disappointing to the GOPe that it's not Rubio or Jeb preventing Trump. It would be much easier to push a close second place finisher into the nomination than someone who finished horribly (Rich Perry, John Kasich), or didn't even particpate (Romney, Paul Ryan.)

74 posted on 04/01/2016 9:42:52 AM PDT by Jack Black ( "Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide")
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To: BJ1

That’s right, the establishment dislikes cruz on the personal level. You notice none of them rallied to Cruz until he was the last possible choice. The only reason they are doing it now is to stop Trump from getting 1237. He is being used like a tool to achieve their goal, that is all.


75 posted on 04/01/2016 9:46:03 AM PDT by Rufus Shinra
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To: BJ1

That’s right, the establishment dislikes cruz on the personal level. You notice none of them rallied to Cruz until he was the last possible choice. The only reason they are doing it now is to stop Trump from getting 1237. He is being used like a tool to achieve their goal, that is all.


76 posted on 04/01/2016 9:46:19 AM PDT by Rufus Shinra
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To: Jack Black

On the first round the delegates are allowed to abstain from voting.

So all bets are off now.

My guess is the next Potus has already been chosen and the FBI has been told to leave her alone.

What I am wondering about now is how far it could go from riots to complete anarchy as I know the Bernie folk are gonna be super angry too.


77 posted on 04/01/2016 9:48:21 AM PDT by MarMema (2016 - Trump or Goldman Sachs)
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To: Jack Black
My lord, the Trumpkins have become whiny! Look, all the Trumpkins like to brag about what a great dealmaker Trump is, and how all he does is "win". So okay. Here is his chance to prove it. Stop whining about life being unfair, and show that he can actually bring the party together to support him as the nominee. And he is not going to do that with threats of riots or of his people staying home if he doesn't get the nomination with only a plurality. He will have to persuade the majority of the party that he is actually a Republican that will stand for and fight for the principles the party espouses, and that he has the discipline and temperament to not only win the election, but also to protect and defend the nation is he were to win.

It is not up to the supporters of other candidates to "fall in line" - it is up to Trump to persuade them he is worthy of their support. Up until now, he has been failing miserably at that challenge.

78 posted on 04/01/2016 9:48:28 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Just mythoughts

I’ve had the same screen name on here since 2011.


79 posted on 04/01/2016 9:49:51 AM PDT by Durbin
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To: Durbin
I’ve had the same screen name on here since 2011.

Why?

80 posted on 04/01/2016 9:50:42 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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