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Did the FBI Just Unleash a Hacker Army on Apple?
thedailybeast ^ | 3.29.16 | Shane Harris

Posted on 03/29/2016 6:19:06 PM PDT by dennisw

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1 posted on 03/29/2016 6:19:06 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Swordmaker

mhwahahhahahahahahah ! ! !


2 posted on 03/29/2016 6:20:01 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

So to everyone else out there in Apple Land, there IS a way to enter their mystery secret code protection blocked pass. Keep trying if the FBI can to it, so could the Taliban, or the ISIS or the friends of Chapo Guzman.


3 posted on 03/29/2016 6:20:41 PM PDT by rovenstinez (Har)
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To: dennisw

I’m sure I read somewhere it was with the assistance of Mossad


4 posted on 03/29/2016 6:23:07 PM PDT by blueplum (March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?)
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To: dennisw

So, correct me if I’m wrong, Apple now knows that their phones can be hacked, but they don’t know how. Maybe they should have helped the FBI.


5 posted on 03/29/2016 6:23:11 PM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: rovenstinez

I liked the comp expert who theorized that replacing one or two key chips in an iphone will make it hackable. Use a soldering gun with exacting and expert technique to remove the chip then insert the same chip but programmed to make the iphone hackable


6 posted on 03/29/2016 6:25:08 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: JoeDetweiler
"Maybe they should have helped the FBI."

And shut their mouths while they were helping the FBI.
7 posted on 03/29/2016 6:25:58 PM PDT by farming pharmer ('Your work will warm you' - overheard in a Soviet gulag...)
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To: blueplum

“I’m sure I read somewhere it was with the assistance of Mossad”
Prime internet gossip was that an Israeli company hacked it for the FBI. For about $16,000


8 posted on 03/29/2016 6:26:41 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
Comey’s earlier remarks, coupled with the government’s decision to drop the warrant request, sent a message to other tech companies: Work with us, or don’t. We’ll get what we need without you.

Which, all along, was the proper solution for the problem, without the heavy hand of Federal government abusing its power.

Now we get to see the leaky sieve that all the 3-letter agencies are when it comes to actual, real life National Security.

If I were a betting man, I would bet that it will be less than 3 months before the technique is in the hands of ISIL... Syria, The Muslim Brotherhood, Iran, Pakistan... etc., etc...

9 posted on 03/29/2016 6:28:01 PM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: rovenstinez

It was done on one device, of one obsolete model, running one operating system.
We’ve been discussing the likely exploit for a long time.
The technique won’t work on newer models.
Doing it once took a professional computer forensics company, apparently billing $15,000.

Hardly “unleashing a hacker army”.
Have an iPhone 5 and are concerned about the technique used? Enable and use long passwords, problem solved. Or just upgrade the device.


10 posted on 03/29/2016 6:29:17 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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To: blueplum
I’m sure I read somewhere it was with the assistance of Mossad

I have several thoughts about the issue, but there's enough stupidity in the real world without my contribution...

11 posted on 03/29/2016 6:29:59 PM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: JoeDetweiler

Or they do know how, and already fixed the weakness in later models.


12 posted on 03/29/2016 6:30:20 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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To: publius911

ISIL et al don’t seem sophisticated enough to do what an “infinite resources” agency couldn’t without help from a business specializing in such work on the other side of the planet.


13 posted on 03/29/2016 6:33:14 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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To: JoeDetweiler

My understanding is that the FBI was looking for more than getting into.this one phone. They were looking for a backdoor that allowed them to enter any phone at any time.


14 posted on 03/29/2016 6:34:10 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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But, if they can get into this phone, doesn’t that mean that they can now get into any phone like this one?


15 posted on 03/29/2016 6:35:39 PM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: ctdonath2
Safety in Numbers
16 posted on 03/29/2016 6:37:49 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: ctdonath2
ISIL et al don’t seem sophisticated enough to do what an “infinite resources” agency couldn’t without help from a business specializing in such work on the other side of the planet.

I would never suggest that they are.
But I would suggest that foreign nationals, technicians in every corner of the U.S. defense system, and even within the U.S government, are quite capable of stealing the technique.

17 posted on 03/29/2016 6:38:14 PM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: rovenstinez

It was an old 5C, much of the protection was software based, but seriously, as I said from the start, warrants aren’t RFQs. Put out the contract need, there will be people who will answer.


18 posted on 03/29/2016 6:49:16 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: JoeDetweiler

Only if the phone is an iPhone 5, and is using a 4-digit numeric passcode with the “self destruct” enabled - and the FBI is willing to pay thousands to another company to perform the operation.

It’s not trivial.


19 posted on 03/29/2016 6:50:24 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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To: dennisw

Hacker army, OH SURE.

They paid an Israeli company $15,000 and THEY did it.

heh.


20 posted on 03/29/2016 7:00:01 PM PDT by gaijin
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