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I’m Not Buying the Utah Poll by Y2 Analytics Showing Cruz Up +24
Virginia Right ^ | 03/20/2016 | Tom White

Posted on 03/21/2016 9:33:20 AM PDT by PJBankard

Y2 Analytics did a poll in Utah showing Ted Cruz up by 24%. I have Cruz winning Utah, but I don’t think he will get 50% of the vote. The poll shows Kasich in second place with 29% of the vote and Trump 3rd at 11%. I believe the order of finish will be Cruz, Kasich and Trump, but Trump will get more than 11% and Kasich won’t get 20%.

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In reading the story in the Salt Lake Tribune, it mentions Scott Riding.....

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Up until last month Scott worked for Jeb Bush...........

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Y2 Analytics is, by my research, a partisan polling outfit that was with Jeb Bush until he quit. And there is evidence that they (Scott are both Anti-Trump and pro Cruz. It cannot be determined if they were paid to conduct this poll, what the internal data was, how the poll was weighted, what areas were called, etc. etc

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Interesting look at the recent Y2 Analytics Poll.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ut/utah_republican_presidential_caucus-5765.html
1 posted on 03/21/2016 9:33:20 AM PDT by PJBankard
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To: PJBankard

Must be the strong pull of the powerful Mitt Romney

< /sarc >


2 posted on 03/21/2016 9:36:11 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump/???)
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To: PJBankard

Related....

Busted! Utah poll showing Cruz ahead at 50% is fake

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=11662


3 posted on 03/21/2016 9:36:45 AM PDT by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: PJBankard

Cruz has underpolled this cycle. So you’re saying his lead is more like 30 or 35 percent?


4 posted on 03/21/2016 9:36:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: PJBankard

My expectation is Trump “11%”. If it is more than that ,it is another huge victory for TRUMP!!


5 posted on 03/21/2016 9:38:42 AM PDT by WENDLE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgIhGgrhQeE)
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To: PJBankard

I really expect Cruz to cruise in Utah. Mormons will carry him all the way. I’ve already convinced myself that Utah doesn’t matter. If Trump picks up a few delegates I’ll be very pleased.


6 posted on 03/21/2016 9:39:20 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: PJBankard

Local Utah media has been flooded with these polls. The only local pollster with any credibility, Dan Jones and Associates, hasn’t been heard from since last September as far as I can tell.

Cruz will probably win, but this is unchartered territory, anything can happen. Tuesday night will be interesting.


7 posted on 03/21/2016 9:40:46 AM PDT by frankenMonkey (Trump 2016, because FUGOP)
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To: PJBankard

I’m sure Cruz will win in Utah but I believe that Trump is being under reported.


8 posted on 03/21/2016 9:43:46 AM PDT by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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To: PJBankard

Utah? Are they followers or thinkers? You decide.

Trump for President. America needs salvation.


9 posted on 03/21/2016 9:44:47 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: PJBankard

If you don’t believe that one, how about this one.

Trump 21
Cruz 42
Rubio 17
Kasich 13

Cruz +21

Taken between 3/8 - 3/15


10 posted on 03/21/2016 9:45:56 AM PDT by kara37
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From the article...

However, if he does not hit the 50% mark, the delegates are evenly divided among all of the candidates with at least 15% of the total. Which means if Cruz gets 49% and Trump gets 15% and Kasich comes in somewhere in between, Cruz will get 14 delegates and Trump and Kasich will get 13 delegates each.

Woah! I did not realize that. That is pretty significant. So if Cruz gets just 49% and Kasich and Trump are able to get to 15%, then Cruz will only end up with 14 delegates instead of 40 and the states will effectively be a three-way tie.

This could be a very good night for Trump after all. If Trump wins AZ and American Samoa, then splits Utah, he could come away with 80 delegates to Cruz's 14.

11 posted on 03/21/2016 9:45:59 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Delegates So Far: Trump (678); Cruz (423); Kasich (143)
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Aren’t you forgetting how the polls so accurately predicted Ted’s stunning victory over Trump in Michigan? Why would you doubt them now?


12 posted on 03/21/2016 9:50:31 AM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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Cruz, from what I’ve read needs 89% of the remaining delegates. IF Trump wins Arizona and Cruz gets all of the delegates in Utah it would be a 58/40 night. That’s Not 89% of the delegates so he’ll be worst off after the night (if that’s how it plays out). Trump on the other hand needs 54% of the remaining delegates which means he will have done better than required on the night (59%). So for Cruz to stay on his current track he needs to win Arizona AND Utah with over 50%. That would give him 100% of the delegates and that would give him a bump to his current pace. Just keeping things in perspective.


13 posted on 03/21/2016 9:53:15 AM PDT by wiseprince
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“Y2 Analytics did a poll in Utah showing Ted Cruz up by 24%. I have Cruz winning Utah, but I don’t think he will get 50% of the vote. The poll shows Kasich in second place with 29% of the vote and Trump 3rd at 11%. I believe the order of finish will be Cruz, Kasich and Trump, but Trump will get more than 11% and Kasich won’t get 20%.”


OK, so if Kasich finishes 2nd, but doesn’t reach 20%, and Trump does better than 11%, but not as well as Kasich, then we’re left with Kasich at 19.99% (at best) and Trump at 19.98% (at best). That leaves 60.03% of the vote left (at worst). So, unless someone (or several someones) other than Cruz gets 10.04%, then Cruz will be above 50% - just by the math involved. Rubio dropped out last Tuesday night, so he might have gotten a few early voters, but after that he likely got almost no one. He’s probably not coming in too high (and even this poll had him at 7%, with Cruz, Kasich & Trump at a cumulative 93%). So, how does Cruz - again, using just this math - NOT get 50%?

FYI, I am not a Cruz supporter (not now - I’ll vote for him happily in November if he’s the nominee), but a Trump supporter...so I’d love for Cruz to get any number under 50% in UT - but I don’t follow the math of it from your example.

Now, there ARE other polls, and they have Cruz at under 50% - but that is a completely different issue.


14 posted on 03/21/2016 9:54:31 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: PJBankard

Mormons can be very strange people.


15 posted on 03/21/2016 9:54:42 AM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ancesthntr

If you read his reply to a comment below in page, I believe the order he initial stated was a typo. He sates in his reply that Trump would be 2nd.


16 posted on 03/21/2016 9:59:58 AM PDT by PJBankard (I wouldn't let Obama or Hillary run my Dairy Queen - Wayne Allen Root)
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To: Ann Archy

If Cruz wins Utah it’ll be because Mormans vote for whoever the Morman leadership want them to vote for. They are a cult with no mind of their own.


17 posted on 03/21/2016 10:01:30 AM PDT by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: PJBankard
People vote their pocketbooks first and foremost.

Those who are against Trump most likely have a financial interest in keeping the multi-trillion dollar gravy train of corruption rolling at full speed. This includes government dependents of all sorts, government employees, government contractor slugs, chicken hawks, political hacks, media hacks, education flunkies, environmental whackos, social service slugs, druggies, welfare slugs, and other assorted slugs dependent on corrupt government.

Those who are for Trump want the corruption ended, and want the USA to survive.

No bias here.

18 posted on 03/21/2016 10:09:14 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: PJBankard

I am worried about the vote by internet. Cruz can steal that easily.


19 posted on 03/21/2016 10:16:05 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: kara37

That one is great. Keep Cruz under 50 percent.


20 posted on 03/21/2016 10:17:30 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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