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1 posted on 03/20/2016 11:46:56 AM PDT by conservativejoy
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Cruz is not a NBC. Never will be. Even he said he wasn’t not too long ago.

What changed?


2 posted on 03/20/2016 11:50:28 AM PDT by dforest (Ted took your money and is laughing all the way to Goldman Sachs)
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In all fairness, Trump didn’t bring this up. Fox news did in 2013. Trump repeated the claim. For every article claiming Cruz is natural born, there is another disputing the fact. The question of whether Cruz is a natural born citizen or the definition of natural born citizen is still undefined.


3 posted on 03/20/2016 11:50:28 AM PDT by mouse1
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Judges don’t impress me.


4 posted on 03/20/2016 11:51:18 AM PDT by Eddie01
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Why hasn’t Cruz brought this up?


5 posted on 03/20/2016 11:51:41 AM PDT by Aria (2016: The gravy train v Donald Trump)
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Its not October yet, hes still useful to the uni-party to stop Trump.


7 posted on 03/20/2016 11:52:29 AM PDT by Mechanicos
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..have you noticed as of late that Donald Trump has not said a peep about Ted Cruz not being eligible for the presidency?

Nonsense. Trump talked about Cruz being ineligible in Utah and again in Arizona.

8 posted on 03/20/2016 11:52:37 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aiderai)
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Just in case somebody reading here doesn't trust the press to get it right ...

On Judge Pellegrini's Opinion that Cruz is a Natural Born Citizen

9 posted on 03/20/2016 11:53:14 AM PDT by Cboldt
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Judges are bull gears in the corrupt machine.

You think lawyers suck, judges are the CEOs of Suck Inc.


10 posted on 03/20/2016 11:54:14 AM PDT by Eddie01
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As someone who doesn’t like Donald Trump, I think Mr. Trump is right in this regard (he may not have even brought this suit). So why do I support Ted Cruz? Because this issue was raised with Barack Hussein Obama who is also not a natural born citizen and it was also rejected by the courts. The lib/commies cannot claim that we must ignore the Constitution when an issue concerns their man, yet switch completely and say it applies when it is someone they don’t like. The courts appear to realize the rank hypocrisy in this and are deciding not to be hypocrites. We have no Constitution now and only Ted Cruz — warts and all — can restore a semblance of one.


11 posted on 03/20/2016 11:54:32 AM PDT by Stepan12
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You know what else no one covers?

The fact that if Ted Cruz were to get elected, he’d be the first President we’ve ever had that was born of a foreign nation.

Like, really and truly born in another country, foreign birth certificate and all.

I think that would be a pretty remarkable moving of the goal posts. Keep in mind, Ted Cruz OPENLY ADMITS TO having a birth circumstance that many “consistent conservatives” tried desperately to prove was applicable to Obama, because Obama being born in Kenya would have made him ineligible.

But somehow, the circumstances of Cruz’s birth are no problem? It doesn’t add up for me. I don’t want future Presidents to be able to come from Saudi Arabia or Cuba.

I’m very much against the loosening of the historically mandatory tradition of the President actually being born in this country, or at the very least, on a base or US controlled territory (by two AMERICAN parents).


12 posted on 03/20/2016 11:55:23 AM PDT by 20yearsofinternet (Border: Close it. Illegals: Deport. Muslims: Ban 'em. Economy: Liberate it. PC: Kill it. Trump 2016)
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I gather ted Cruz’s US Birth Certificate, and his other US government docs, never went to the “discovery” phase.

For a smart guy, Cruz makes dumb decisions.
Cruz could spend $10.00 at kinkos/staples (Mitt should get him the ex employee discount) and make copies of his US Birth certificate.
But no, Cruz opts to spend $100,000 (??) to defend himself against all of these lawsuits!


14 posted on 03/20/2016 11:56:11 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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Why don’t they address his dual citizenship?


18 posted on 03/20/2016 12:01:15 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Hillary's a criminal.)
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Reviewing articles is not reviewing law and precedent.


19 posted on 03/20/2016 12:02:40 PM PDT by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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One reason Mr. Trump hasn’t mentioned it is that Mr. Cruz is circling the drain at the moment. There are wiser uses of time and energy.

The other is the soon-to-be President elect is lining up the foreign leaders who are all but breathing a sigh of relief that the American nightmare is almost over. Contrary to what the elites tell everyone, the world wants a strong and free America to lead the world.


25 posted on 03/20/2016 12:08:25 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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This PA judge’s opinion is about as binding as yours or mine beyond his restricted jurisdiction.


27 posted on 03/20/2016 12:10:10 PM PDT by EDINVA
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The judge relies on several pieces on legal scholarship. First, a memo produced in 1968 by Charles Gordon...Then the judge spends four pages quoting from the recent work of Paul Clement & Neal Katyal in the Harvard Law Review...

That's a shame. It is pretty widely agreed that Gordon's paper contained several basic errors both of fact and of reasoning, and is not actually very well respected. Clement and Katyal's paper is extremely shallow and barely touched the surface of what actually needs to be understood if one is to address the NBC issue. If these are the sources that this judge used, then his ruling is profoundly simplistic and unauthoritative.

This judge should have at least looked at this paper, which is probably the single most comprehensive work on the NBC subject to date: The Natural Born Citizen Clause as Originally Understood

As a further question along this line, if the ICE declares that children born abroad are NBCs, then why is it that a missionary family that I know of in Romania, whose three children were born there, are currently unable to get visas for their children, since their children are not even considered as having US citizenship, much less natural born citizenship? Their children are having to be naturalised just to be able to visit their mother in a hospital here in the States.

34 posted on 03/20/2016 12:15:03 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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PING

Trump may have gone silent on this - but he is shouting out now. Just this weekend going so far as to say Cruz is not eligible having been born in Canada. Until such time this should be decided - there is no reason to give Cruz the vote.

If the GOPe wish to give Cruz their recommendation, it is suggested they RUSH to settle this matter once and for all. Cruz will be unable to stop TRUMP having to fight two fronts simultaneously

Just a word to the wise (what the GOPe believes itself to be)


36 posted on 03/20/2016 12:15:44 PM PDT by V K Lee (u TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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Because its meaningless until there is a SCOTUS ruling.


37 posted on 03/20/2016 12:16:13 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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Precisely what I’ve been saying for months....birthright citizenship = natural born citizen.


38 posted on 03/20/2016 12:16:49 PM PDT by traderrob6
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Expected - the media is PROTECTING Cruz at this point. The fact that a judge has to rule on it, regardless of outcome, would bring doubt on whether Cruz is eligible, since the next judge, of course, could rule differently.

But rest assured, the media will TEAR INTO his eligibility the moment it looks like Cruz has a shot at the presidency. That’s how they operate.


39 posted on 03/20/2016 12:16:51 PM PDT by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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