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Judge Smacks Down Trump's Ted Cruz Birther Claims, and Hardly Anyone Covers It
Law News ^ | 3/20/2016 | Rachel Stockman

Posted on 03/20/2016 11:46:56 AM PDT by conservativejoy

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To: VerySadAmerican

Yes, I believe Obama and Cruz are both ineligible and when Obama was installed there was too much money to get to be stopped by a document written two centuries ago. They already knew there were trillions of dollars to get.

And yes, lots of people here disagree with me...but then I disagree with them. :-)


221 posted on 03/20/2016 6:03:26 PM PDT by Aria (2016: The gravy train v Donald Trump)
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To: V K Lee
This states in the common ENGLISH language that WTP can understand. Suggest you view the video. It is understandable why this conclusion was drawn. What will be done?

The left WANTS a white Republican foreigner appointed President for two reasons:

First, to cement their lawlessness in defense of Obama's ineligibility into the appearance of a continuous, permanent policy allowing birth-status fudging; and

Second, to further their OneWorld goals of extinguishing national borders and increasing the erosion of US sovereignty.

So, as long as the Uniparty are in power, nothing will be done; and the Democrats might not even bring it up if Cruz gets the nomination. They would be more likely to try to trot it out in the unlikely event that he would be elected, about a month or two into his Administration.
222 posted on 03/20/2016 6:07:22 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

There are only 2 types of citizenship in the U.S., birthright and naturalized. There are no legal documents, no official papers, no authorities at any level that agree in a separate and 3rd form of citizenship. Birthright citizenship is NBC. There is no argument because there is no legal authority that agrees with you and you can quote Vattel until you turn purple but you will continue to be ridiculed mercilessly.


223 posted on 03/20/2016 6:11:23 PM PDT by douginthearmy
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To: musicman
No EXTRA LAW needed

WTF are you talking about. There is no such thing in law. Naturalized is clearly defined in law. Anyone who is not naturalized has birthright citizenship (unless of course they are not citizens).

224 posted on 03/20/2016 6:14:19 PM PDT by douginthearmy
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To: PJBankard
No, I’m correct. That article doesn’t prove anything. They may be US Citizens, but they can’t be President...

I understand that you don't like what the article says, since it conflicts with what you've come to believe.

However, the article represents the researched and considered view of the military community -- which gives it a certain credibility.

And, if military children born under these circumstances are "natural born citizens", so too is Ted Cruz.

A tough pill to swallow, I'd grant. But there it is...

225 posted on 03/20/2016 6:22:41 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORAN?0CE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01

Some people are born to deceive and some people are born to be deceived.


226 posted on 03/20/2016 6:38:46 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: chrisnj

Precisely. The system is fixed.


227 posted on 03/20/2016 6:41:05 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: okie01

I follow the Constitution, not what someone believes. Constitutions intent is clear. Cruz isn’t eligible.


228 posted on 03/20/2016 7:00:56 PM PDT by PJBankard (I wouldn't let Obama or Hillary run my Dairy Queen - Wayne Allen Root)
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To: Theo

229 posted on 03/20/2016 7:04:21 PM PDT by Veracious Poet (Trump 2016 - Let's make America great again!)
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To: PJBankard
Constitutions intent is clear. Cruz isn’t eligible.

In your opinion...

230 posted on 03/20/2016 7:11:30 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORAN?0CE ON PARADE)
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To: Just mythoughts
Some people are born to deceive and some people are born to be deceived.,/i>

Ain't that the truth...

231 posted on 03/20/2016 7:12:56 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORAN?0CE ON PARADE)
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To: conservativejoy

I think the birther court case score card is:

Senator Cruz: 3 or 4 (NY, FL, IL any others?)
Birther Fever Swamp: 0, zero, goose egg, airball

But keep howling at the moon and cutting and pasting NBC theories onto websites. It’s fun for everyone - especially for those of us who enjoy a laugh. Meanwhile in the real world, in real courts, where it actually matters, birther nonsense will, of course, always be swatted away.


232 posted on 03/20/2016 7:14:13 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason.)
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To: Dagnabitt
Yeah, after Prez -0- who really gives a feck about any candidates birth cert crap, except those pesky out-of-tough A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N-S...


233 posted on 03/20/2016 7:25:53 PM PDT by Veracious Poet (Trump 2016 - Let's make America great again!)
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To: Veracious Poet

I read an idiotic article blaming the Middle East uprising and Syrian refugee crisis on climate change, not resurgent Islam.
And we know Islam is by its nature a conquering religion because that’s how it spread across Arabia in a few years once the founder decided he had the right to raid and kill those who wouldn’t convert, and his immediate successors continued that trend to conquer a mostly Christian Middle East and north Africa.
But no, don’t blame a religion that calls non-Muslim lands “The House of War”, blame climate change instead.


234 posted on 03/20/2016 7:28:30 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Aria

well, its what I think the Founders/Framers meant! They suffered too much and were committed to the new nation too much not to have someone as committed as themselves holding the Office of President, and more specifically, as Commander in Chief. Birthright would have been their idea of a situation providing that unswerving loyalty.


235 posted on 03/20/2016 7:38:41 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: okie01

“So, every child born of U.S. military parents stationed abroad is ineligible to serve as POTUS.”

Yes, with the exception of children born abroad under U.S. diplomatic protection with two U.S. citizen parents to give them natural born citizenship. Birth in a military hospital on a U.S. military base located in the territory of a foreign state and sovereignty, contrary to the common myth, does not qualify as the U.S. territory and/or U.S. jurisdiction required for natural born citizenship.


236 posted on 03/20/2016 9:19:09 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: conservativejoy

Author lost me after the first sentence. Trump mentions Cruz’s ineligibility in pretty much every ralley, including both rallies in Arizona yesterday (one day before this article was published).


237 posted on 03/20/2016 9:27:24 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier ("The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons." ~Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: Ray76
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238 posted on 03/20/2016 11:34:19 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: Ray76

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/10/us/politics/cuban-peers-dispute-ted-cruzs-fathers-story-of-fighting-for-castro.html?_r=0


239 posted on 03/20/2016 11:53:12 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: WhiskeyX
Birth in a military hospital on a U.S. military base located in the territory of a foreign state and sovereignty, contrary to the common myth, does not qualify as the U.S. territory and/or U.S. jurisdiction required for natural born citizenship.

You are correct on that point. But otherwise mistaken.

240 posted on 03/21/2016 4:48:13 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORAN?0CE ON PARADE)
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