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Judge Smacks Down Trump's Ted Cruz Birther Claims, and Hardly Anyone Covers It
Law News ^ | 3/20/2016 | Rachel Stockman

Posted on 03/20/2016 11:46:56 AM PDT by conservativejoy

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To: FredZarguna

The wording in the Constitution specifically excludes those early Presidents, but not someone who was a dual-citizen in 2014, seeking the Office of President two years later.


101 posted on 03/20/2016 1:21:43 PM PDT by jennings2004 ("What difference, at this point, does it make!"! Senator Cruz: Canadian from birth to May, 2014!)
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To: mouse1
Ted Cruz’s mother does not have a US birth certificate.

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Would this be the BC?


102 posted on 03/20/2016 1:22:07 PM PDT by deport
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To: DiogenesLamp

Since it is obvious we were lied to and the rules were not followed with Obummer makes it a criminal act. Precedent is not set by a criminal act. It’s time to right the ship...follow the Constitution henceforth, and arrest those who put Obummer in place.


103 posted on 03/20/2016 1:23:06 PM PDT by kiltie65
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To: EDINVA

No sir/ma’am. I read it. But until SCOTUS rules different, it is the law in Pennsylvania.

Oh, by the way, I don’t think that SCOTUS will ever take up this case.

I don’t remember the exact count, but every jurisdiction in which the NBC claim has been raised, has discarded it.

Also, I don’t agree with the courts, but I learned decades ago that when a court rules, it is the law of the case until overruled or reversed by a superior court.


104 posted on 03/20/2016 1:24:44 PM PDT by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
This is my position. They didn't follow the rules with Obama, so we don't have to follow the rules with Cruz.

To use legalese language, Ann Coulter and the lib/commies are estopped from raising the natural born citizenship issue vis a vis Ted Cruz.

105 posted on 03/20/2016 1:27:49 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: FredZarguna

Seems to me the constitution has an exception for those who were born before there was a USA. Otherwise we would have had babies or foreigners as POTUS.

Washington was born in Virginia
John Adams was born in Massachusetts,
Thomas Jefferson was born in Virginia,
James Madison was born in Virginia,
James Monroe was born in Virginia,
John Quincy Adams was born in Massachusetts,
Andrew Jackson was born in the North/South Carolina area William Henry Harrison was born in Virginia


106 posted on 03/20/2016 1:27:54 PM PDT by Aria (2016: The gravy train v Donald Trump)
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To: Aria

If this judge ruled against them he would have been forced to rule against Obama.


107 posted on 03/20/2016 1:28:12 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Cruz voters: Wake up! Trump is our only chance of stopping the gopE. If not now, never!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Interesting reply.

Do you think electing Cruz rises to this level of importance?


108 posted on 03/20/2016 1:28:44 PM PDT by Aria (2016: The gravy train v Donald Trump)
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To: dforest

I’m so angry that our nation was misled with the current pos in the White House. To do it again, he** NO!


109 posted on 03/20/2016 1:30:17 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: FredZarguna

Fred, as much as you and I would both like to see a meaningful resolution to this matter... Do you not realize that this “lawsuit” wasn’t from Trump; that the guy asking for a ruling isn’t a lawyer and was representing himself? The judge is not an expert in this area and his ruling is basically meaningless anywhere outside of his jurisdiction.


110 posted on 03/20/2016 1:32:44 PM PDT by fireman15 (The USA will be toast if the Democrats are able to take the Presidency in 2016)
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To: conservativejoy

> The judge did use law and case precedent.

Only in regard to determining if the case is justiciable.

In regard to “natural born citizen” he relies on articles: “A ‘Natural Born Citizen’ Within the Meaning of the Constitution” by Breckinridge Long, “Who can be President of the United States, the Unresolved Enigma” by Charles Gordon, “Qualifications for President and the ‘Natural Born’ Citizenship Eligibility Requirement” by Jack Maskell, “On the Meaning of ‘Natural Born Citizen’” by Paul Clement and Neal Katyal, “Why senator John McCain cannot Be President” by Gabriel Chin, and “Is Gov. George Romney Eligible To Be President” by Isidor Blum.


111 posted on 03/20/2016 1:34:22 PM PDT by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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To: FredZarguna

Ouch.. that had to have left a mark.


112 posted on 03/20/2016 1:36:35 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: mouse1

Umm the judge in this story DID decide...

so you might wana correct yourself.


113 posted on 03/20/2016 1:37:58 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: Aria
Do you think electing Cruz rises to this level of importance?

Yes I do. I consider the appointment of the judiciary to be of utmost importance in correcting the nation's leftward drift, and while I believe Mr. Trump would do many good and important things, this matter of appointing the appropriate people to the Judiciary is not one of them.

It is essential that we preclude any more liberals from getting on the courts. They (Liberal Judges) are already instituting Nazi-like Gleichschaltung regarding freedom of speech and freedom of religion, and if we do not stop and reverse this trend, we will eventually have either secret police or another civil war.

Yes, it's that important.

114 posted on 03/20/2016 1:38:04 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
You are entitled to your opinion of course but I do not trust Cruz the way you do.

To me he's proven he can be VERY slippery and frankly, dishonest. I see his claims about himself more a ploy than nonnegotiable principles.

I'm not always right but that's what I feel based on what I know.

115 posted on 03/20/2016 1:47:30 PM PDT by Aria (2016: The gravy train v Donald Trump)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Here I sort of disagree. It’s meaning was the axiomatic extension of the “natural law” foundation of the nation.”

It doesn’t matter what the foundation was. The Naturalization Act of 1790 specifically defines “natural born” as children of citizen parents, and “natural born” is a concept carried over into the Constitution.


116 posted on 03/20/2016 1:50:12 PM PDT by odawg
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To: FredZarguna

States = Colonies. They were self-governing entities under the Crown.


117 posted on 03/20/2016 1:52:05 PM PDT by odawg
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To: odawg
It doesn’t matter what the foundation was. The Naturalization Act of 1790 specifically defines “natural born” as children of citizen parents,

No it doesn't. It doesn't "define" anything. It says they will be treated just like "natural born citizens." It never says they *are* natural born citizens.

This is like saying an adopted child will be treated just like a blood child. It never says the adopted child is the same as a blood child.

118 posted on 03/20/2016 1:53:02 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: conservativejoy
The more that there is talk of Cruz's ineligibility the more that people will come to see the inherent truth of it.

Cruz and his supporters would like for the issue to go away, but it will not.
It only hurts Cruz which is fine by me. This guy is a fraud on the order of the Clintons, Kerry, and other political liars of recent infamy.

119 posted on 03/20/2016 1:53:15 PM PDT by Radix (Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents.)
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