Mexico floods or dumps people in to the US both legally and illegally the US doesn't into Mexico.. access do Americans owning property anything in Mexico is highly restricted... it a one way street
China floods or dumps product in to the US... but the US access to China markets are highly restricted again it's a one way street
im in favor of free trade when it's truly free trade two countries have equal access to each other’s markets in a mutually beneficial situation ........just like another favor of immigration which country has equal access of letting their people move between the two countries and have equal ability to control that flows between two countries
what am I am not in favor of is a one way relationship that benefit of one country and all disadvantage to the other (US) that's what we currently have.
that's the problem we have so many basically anti-American people making the deals based on their personal benefit and based on their dislike of the US
We have the Country Clubber right there just looking to line their own pockets and screw the rest of us and we have the globalist one world order types on the left like an Obama and Soros who thinks the US has to be basically broken and subservient to their one world agenda...in both cases middle-class bourgeoisie is to be "put in their place" and becomes the peons and Serfs ....we're dealing with two different groups both the Elite left and Elite right that ultimately just see themselves as Elites.. the natural rulers and we are supposed to be under them and subservient
ultimately left or right we're dealing with one common group... people that see themselves as a natural ruling class.. and they need weak broken subservient people to rule over... and when America was always about was the exact opposite of that...
Free trade works great if your country’s citizens are constantly striving to improve their knowledge skills and abilities.
That’s why the United States grew so quickly during the first 85 years of the 20th Century, why Japan grew so quickly post-WWII, Asia as a whole the past three decades.
When you kill the spirit of the majority of the working age population, free trade is no longer as beneficial, which is what we’re seeing now.
It doesn’t really matter much from here out, however, as machines are the new “foreign competition.” The growth of machines replacing workers in industry is exponential, and exponential growth is dangerous because it looks like a shallow ramp, until it looks like a wall. The wall is going to force a new paradigm on human existence, and nobody knows how it will all shake out.
If one is investing (or worse spending) all their earnings on anything other than real estate and maximizing liquid asset accumulation, he will soon be in a very big pen with a whole lot of his fellow sheep.
These deals aren’t free trade, they are managed trade.
Still flogging this dead mule?
This is NOT Free Trade..... It’s RIGGED AGAINST US TRADE.
NOT EVERY ONE IS PLAYING BY THE SAME RULES....
It’s the equivalent of playing a rigged poker game and expecting to win. You can’t if not everyone is not playing by the same rules.
What part of we pay Tariffs and they don’t do you fail to understand?
What part of they manipulate their currency do you not understand?
For the record, the United States was a Super Power in the world for a very long time before these Rigged Trade Deals that were signed in 1996 starting with NAFTA.
Do you really believe our country is heading in the right direction since NAFTA,GATT, etc... and soon to be the TPP?
You need to quit smoking the dope you are selling.
It is hard to compete with unregulated slave labor production. Until, American workers learn to appreciate the benefits of being enslaved they will continue to suffer.
In the second 1992 Presidential Debate, Ross Perot argued: We have got to stop sending jobs overseas. It's pretty simple: If you're paying $12, $13, $14 an hour for factory workers and you can move your factory South of the border, pay a dollar an hour for labor,...have no health care—that's the most expensive single element in making a car— have no environmental controls, no pollution controls and no retirement, and you don't care about anything but making money, there will be a giant sucking sound going south.
...when [Mexico's] jobs come up from a dollar an hour to six dollars an hour, and ours go down to six dollars an hour, and then it's leveled again. But in the meantime, you've wrecked the country with these kinds of deals.
Heritage does not like Trump and has made that obvious.
"But, in general, the protective system of our day is conservative, while the free trade system is destructive. It breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the extreme point. In a word, the free trade system hastens the social revolution. It is in this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, that I vote in favor of free trade."
-- Karl Marx
Blue Collar Voters: Trade is Killing Us
McClatchy DC
April 2, 2016
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article69551672.html
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3416750/posts
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Establishment voices of economists, government and business officials argue that trade deals are critical in a global economy, and great for America. But critics such as organized labor call them “death warrants.”
And in blue collar communities in Wisconsin and across the industrial Midwest, that economic angst, coupled with some sense of betrayal, helps explain the roiling politics of 2016.
Wisconsin votes Tuesday. But soon after come other industrial states, including Pennsylvania. And all could be battlegrounds this fall in the general election.
And a lot will look like Milwaukee, once known as “the machine shop to the world,” now grappling with a new economy.
Wisconsin has lost more than more than 68,000 manufacturing jobs since the mid-1990s and the first of several controversial trade pacts with Mexico, China and others took hold.
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Wealth is created by making stuff. Or more correctly making stuff other people would like to have. The more (good) stuff you make the more wealth you have created. Cars, corn, casinos, whatever were all made by somebody or a group of somebodies. While gold bars or barrels of oil were not "made" they were discovered and processed into a usable product by somebody so I am going to throw them into the same bucket as the (good) stuff somebody made. There is no other way to create wealth other than making stuff. Everybody not involved in making stuff is just getting a slice of the wealth created by somebody making stuff.
A doctor maybe preforming a valuable service by saving your life but he has not created any wealth. Dido the bartender that hands you a beer after a hard day of bashing Trump.
Does our trade policy encourage us make more stuff here or does it encourage our producers to produce else where?
Ok lets do the math. Making stuff produces wealth our trade policy encourages our producers to produce else where. Ergo our trade policy is causing us (USA) to lose wealth. Put another way we are getting poorer while the productive nations (China) are getting richer.
:) logic is your friend.
Yes there are other reasons manufacturing and jobs are fleeing the USA but trade our policy is not helping producers here at home.
One last thing our "trading partners" in Asia and else where are not engaging in "free trade" with the USA. That is a fallacy perpetuated by the globalist seeking to destroy the American middle class so they can implement a NWO. With them on top of course.
Wealth is created in three ways: by mining, agriculture and manufacturing. There are no other ways to create wealth. None.
Anyone not directly involved in those things is only adding value at the margins and not creating anything. If another country is exporting those durable things to you and you are not doing those wealth creating activities anymore then your country is growing poorer by the day.
You may not care but just so you know what is happening....
Great Britain was the first country to commit suicide by de industrializing. They are the example to NOT follow.
Funny how they don’t teach this in bidness skool.
Where is this “Free Trade” of which you speak?
Before all of the free trade bull caca started in ernest around 1980 I don't recall the USA resembling a North Korean style dictatorship. LOL.
Giving China unfettered access to the American market while serverly restricting their own maybe ‘Free Trade,’ but it isn’t free trade.
We need free trade so that Communist China can continue to build its military and so that we can pay for it.