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To: joesbucks

I think there is also a strong “choose to ignore” aspect in those who follow Trump. They intellectually know of his liberal past, but don’t care because they connect with the angry meme of his campaign and is political incorrectness.


5 posted on 03/10/2016 5:25:53 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: 5thGenTexan

I think there is also a strong “choose to ignore” aspect in those who follow Trump. They intellectually know of his liberal past, but don’t care because they connect with the angry meme of his campaign and is political incorrectness.


I think there’s a ‘strong copies to ignore aspect’ about cRuz followers. The see the repeated signs, daily, of his GOPee stripes, yet they refuse to accept or deal with it, realistically.

They are happy to go along with CRuz’s holier than thou rhetoric for their ‘conservative’ pablum.

I’m going with the candidate who has proven leadership and business experience and is not a Bush PAC/operative paid career politician.


29 posted on 03/10/2016 5:35:40 AM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: 5thGenTexan

That’s as condescending as Cruz’s statement.


43 posted on 03/10/2016 5:40:59 AM PST by gogeo (Donald Trump. Because it's finally come to that.)
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To: 5thGenTexan

So far this election cycle I have not been critical of Cruz, however, that is about to change.

Cruz, like other GOPe’s,think they know the American people.
They think they are so much more intelligent and above their constituents.

Politicians like Cruz have never worked a blue collar job to support their families, or know the struggles many Americans have making a living for themselves.

They just don’t get it. As Trump said at one of his rallies,”you don’t even need to be a high school graduate to see what is going on in this country is wrong.”


44 posted on 03/10/2016 5:41:00 AM PST by eastforker (The only time you can be satisfied is when your all Trump.)
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To: 5thGenTexan
They intellectually know of his liberal past, but don’t care because they connect with the angry meme of his campaign and is political incorrectness.

Yep it happens every election. Promises are made and people chose. Liberal past or GOPe present. Make America Great or Low information.

46 posted on 03/10/2016 5:41:37 AM PST by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: 5thGenTexan

I think there is also a strong “choose to ignore” aspect in those who follow Trump. They intellectually know of his liberal past, but don’t care because they connect with the angry meme of his campaign and is political incorrectness.
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Perhaps, but I suspect they have correctly surmised he is the only candidate that can beat Hillary and make real changes. Fantasy match ups of Clinton vs. whoever are meaningless, just propaganda by fearful leftist media.

At this point in the race, an R victory is really dependent on what Cruz does with his second place delegates. He can’t pass Trump in delegate count, not enough Cruz states left, any shenanigans at convention, as in not awarding the leader with the nomination, will of course give Hillary the win


52 posted on 03/10/2016 5:43:02 AM PST by QuigleyDU
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To: 5thGenTexan

Yes right !

And as christian one can believe in Redemption and forgiveness...

Looks like some are beginning to see the light....


59 posted on 03/10/2016 5:46:53 AM PST by Ulysse (pal)
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To: 5thGenTexan

the divide in the voters Senator Cruz is between Dogmatism and Realism. It not “low information” or “anger” that drives the Trump people. It is Realism.

The 2016 GOP Primary has brought to the for an old divide in Conservatism. There currently is a war being waged between the Dogmatics and the Realists. The Dogmatist care nothing about political realities, only the purity of the candidate political dogma matters to them. The Realist understands you have to be able to advance the political ball down the field to achieve the goals of the dogma. The Realist understands some times a flawed tool is going work better then the flawlessly poltical pure tool.

Reagan, who was a realist, wrote about it.

By Ronald Reagan in his autobiography An American Life

“When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it. “Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything. I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’ If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.

Th Dogmatic at NR, Town Hall, Red State and the rest of the “Conservative” media sneer at the realist as being “nihlistic towards DC and the GOP”.

It is not Nihilism, it Realism. Since 1988 Conservatives have faithfully pledges their treasure and time to the GOP. Despite elections successes in 1988, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2010 and 2014 what have Conservative gotten from the GOP?

Prosperity? Nope worse economy since 1979.

Reduction in Government-nope as expense, corrupt, incompetent, intrusive and bigger then ever

Supreme Court? Nope as far left as it has ever been.

A Nation secure? Nope at risk in a dangerous world. Military broken, exhausted and overextended.

A respect for rule of law and the Constitution? Nope. Goveremnt, and society, is more lawless then it has ever been.

A healthy growing vibrant society? Nope stagnant or in decline everywhere in every way.

So, it not Nihilism, it Realism. It is a realistic assessment that doing the same thing again this year electorally is going to continue this decline and degradation from DC.You can only overcome inertia in any system with force. So we need to force DC out of it denigrate path onto a new path. So why Trump rather then Cruz?

I know this falls on deaf ears with 100%ers at NR, Red State and other “Conservative” media but the fact remains, we are a Constitutional Republic that rests on the notion that the people’s Representatives in Government know how to compromise and negotiate.

This feeling that Cruz will ride into DC and dictate the Conservative Media’s 100%er terms to everyone else there is simply wishful thinking. What is more probably is Cruz would be a GOP Carter.

Carter was the same sort of religious political puritan who went to DC and assumed he would dictate his political dogmas to everyone there. The record shows how badly that idea failed.

“Conservative” politicians talk a good game and then go to DC and accomplish nothing. After 30 years of fail, it is time to try another solution. The winning candidate is, brace yourseelf.... going to have to cut DEALS! And some times those deals require..compromise!!!

Another fail point for the “Principled Conservatives” is they think only as far as the election. Then once they win their purity candidates go to DC and fail against the inertia of the DC/Media political machine. 1988-1994-1998-2000-2002-2004-2010-2014 are all example of where this “Next election” mindset has failed.

Trump is merely the 1st wave of a multi wave assault. Cruz might do for a follow up wave, he is not a 1st wave candidate. Without Trump to lead the way, the Cruz boat would of either been ignored because it was irrelevant, or been shelled into oblivion by the $10s of millions of GOPE attack ads.

The 1st wave job in any assault is to shatter the defenses and open the road for the follow up waves. No matter how flawed you think the vessel is, Trump is the best 1st wave political assault team we have had to hand in my lifetime.

We need to use Trump for all he is worth to shatter the corrupt, “my party right or wrong” mindset that grips vast swaths of the electorate. Break that inertia, get the people thinking outside the party label box and real change is possible. Do not an we slide into a stagnate European style decline that will not end in my lifetime. Cruz shares that agenda point but is not as well equipped by background and media following to achieve that break through as Trump

We either win this now or we have little chance of ever doing it again politically. Once we win we must relentlessly stay on the attack election wave after election wave until we are dead.

I am really not willing to leave this fight to my kids and grand-kids. We have let the ship of state drift since Reagan in the hands of the “smart people”. We failed and most redeem that failure.

This is our generation’s “go” time


70 posted on 03/10/2016 5:52:17 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: 5thGenTexan

You sure know how to win friends and influence people here.


81 posted on 03/10/2016 5:54:45 AM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: 5thGenTexan

You shouldn’t drink the Kool-aid, I used to be a radical leftwing Democrat.

Ford changed my direction towards conservatism when he pardoned Nixon. I reread the US Contitution then read, what should be required teading in schools, The Federalist Papers.

Then Reagan sealed the deal.


122 posted on 03/10/2016 6:13:20 AM PST by stockpirate (We must burn down the republican party, to save it for “We the People” (Palin Trump is the 1st wav)
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To: 5thGenTexan

I am not engaged by the angry meme or lack of political correctness although I am amused by them. I am drawn by a flawed human like myself who truly loves this country and wants our greatness back. I don’t need a televangelist, I need a President who loves America!


127 posted on 03/10/2016 6:15:30 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: 5thGenTexan
I think there is also a strong “choose to ignore” aspect in those who follow Trump. They intellectually know of his liberal past, but don’t care

So anyone who has ever had a liberal past is not a good candidate?

Ronald Reagan was a lifelong liberal Democrat until 1962 when he became a conservative. Three years later he ran for governor in California.

Cruz is beginning to really irritate me.

163 posted on 03/10/2016 6:33:22 AM PST by ladyjane
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