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Un-peaceful Coexistence – Trump and Conservatism
Townhall.com ^ | March 9, 2016 | Bob Barr

Posted on 03/09/2016 6:42:17 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 03/09/2016 6:42:17 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

What we have here is that Trump is for American jobs.

“Conservatism” has morphed to be, for Chinese jobs. Where the heck, is that conservative? China is a massive, growing communist state.

It is not conservative. There is nothing about that, which is conservative. Nothing.

Chinese jobs. That is a big, big problem. Bring back American jobs.

America. Once again.


2 posted on 03/09/2016 6:46:16 AM PST by cba123
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To: Kaslin

Bob Barr? I quit listening to him years ago. Barely more credible than Mitt at this stage in the game.


3 posted on 03/09/2016 6:46:19 AM PST by SoFloFreeper (I am undecided between Cruz, Rubio & Trump...)
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To: Kaslin

You need to have a country before you can begin to worry about it being conservative. Right now, under the Marxist in Chief and if we take on the Bitch in Chief we will not have a country but we will have a large land mass of dissimilar peoples with dissimilar demands, all of which will center on free stuff from an already bankrupt treasury. First things first.


4 posted on 03/09/2016 6:47:00 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Kaslin
Trump’s brand of Republican-authoritarianism can never coexist with traditional conservatism; which defines that the actions necessary to making markets and individuals more free must be aimed at keeping government small, and bound by the Constitution. It is a clear, immutable litmus test; and, were the GOP a true conservative entity, any action that contradicted this fundamental maxim by increasing the size of government, or limiting the rights of individuals, would be rejected.

I couldn't agree more.

I have to come to grips with the apparent fact that the country has moved on and now demand a more authoritarian style of government.

5 posted on 03/09/2016 6:50:46 AM PST by skeeter
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Your style of posting is vaguely familiar.


6 posted on 03/09/2016 6:51:29 AM PST by skeeter
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I think the better way to explain this is the Dogmatics vrs the Realists.

This is an old divide in Conservatism. The Dogmatist care nothing about reality only the purity of the dogma matters. The Realist understands you have to be able to advance the political ball down the field to achieve the goals of the dogma.

Reagan, who was a realist, wrote about it.

By Ronald Reagan in his autobiography An American Life

“When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it. “Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything. I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’ If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.

7 posted on 03/09/2016 6:52:08 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: skeeter

Just noting, for the record.

I am Cringing Negativism Network.

I am currently on a extended vacation in southeast Asia where I am using non-secure wireless. So I also have a non-secure FR handle.

:D

Go Trump.


8 posted on 03/09/2016 6:54:17 AM PST by cba123
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To: Kaslin

Good old Bob Barr. Bless his heart


9 posted on 03/09/2016 6:55:07 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: cba123

How’s the weather in Phuket?:)


10 posted on 03/09/2016 6:56:03 AM PST by skeeter
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To: cba123

Barr quit being conservative a long time ago. He goes libertarian and where his fees come from these days


11 posted on 03/09/2016 6:56:32 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Kaslin

Exploring Trumpism (Irritional people who refuse to see the truth.)
http://humanevents.com/2016/03/02/exploring-trumpism/


12 posted on 03/09/2016 6:58:14 AM PST by GailA (any politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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To: Kaslin

Coexistence? Sure. But I won’t hold this man’s water.


13 posted on 03/09/2016 6:59:21 AM PST by Durbin
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To: Kaslin

And just what have all these “conservatives” I keep hearing about, and reading about, actually conserved? I’m sure Bob Barr has been sure to conserve his wealth, and I’m sure the neo-con-artists and their open borders toadies will invite him to their cocktail parties. But, American jobs continue to be shipped overseas and we’ve become a nation of burger flippers, mall clerks, and government employees or just government dependents, the 3rd world invasion continues to expand, our education system continues to deteriorate.

I don’t see where these conservatives have actually conserved anything. The country I was born in vanished 40 years ago, the country my kids were born in has also vanished, and even the country my grandchildren were born in is rapidly changing. All this under the watch of these so-called “conservatives.”


14 posted on 03/09/2016 6:59:29 AM PST by euram
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To: skeeter

Barr is incorrect. as usual

People hear trump campaigning on border and immigration issues. Those resonate. Look at the most recent piece of scum captured in Missouri. This happens every where. We give our country away to folks like this. The congress promises but does nothing except spend money and roll over for the commie in the WH

Trump resonates because of this


15 posted on 03/09/2016 6:59:52 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: skeeter

I’m actually in Ho Chi Minh City now.

It is hot here, but not ridiculously so. It gets warmer though.

Soon enough.


16 posted on 03/09/2016 7:00:24 AM PST by cba123
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You could have used cnn for a handle, think about it. *big grin*


17 posted on 03/09/2016 7:01:01 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed theThe l ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Kaslin

Here comes another one just like the other one...He did it, he done it, he won it! Yep, another recipient of that bad writer award, placed on the list of writers of useless drivel.

Trump plays on fears...he shouldn’t do that by implication.

So, this writer thinks that the concerns of the nation should NOT be addressed by politicians?

There is a time and a place for being conservative, but the definition of conservative today is NOT conservative. Conservative by it’s very definition implies resistance to changing things, keeping the status quo.

Right now, in this world political climate, the very last thing we need to be is conservative. What we need to be is pro-active to bring BACK what’s been lost! Conservative ideals have been lost and ignored, we need to bring them back.

Trump wants to reduce the size of government and has stated plans to eliminate portions that don’t need to be there, AND reduce the size of others.

Trump is frugal..that’s who he is. He’s not cheap, he’s frugal. Frugal means wise and careful spending, getting the best bang for the buck, getting the best possible quality at the best possible price. It leaves room for luxuries too.

Trumps best asset, what we need most right now, IS his ability to work with finances, because this country is in severe trouble. If the government had utilized general accounting principles, it wouldn’t be in this mess, but it is and it has to be dealt with.

Barr shows himself to be adumbass, and ignorant of the issues.


18 posted on 03/09/2016 7:01:15 AM PST by PrairieLady2 (If you Cruze, you looze. Bye, Bye Miss American Pie...)
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To: MNJohnnie

Precisely

So many of these purists would or did hate Reagan.


19 posted on 03/09/2016 7:01:32 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: cba123

You mean Saigon. Always wanted to visit there.


20 posted on 03/09/2016 7:02:22 AM PST by skeeter
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