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1 posted on 03/03/2016 9:46:12 AM PST by LexBaird
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To: LexBaird

time will tell


2 posted on 03/03/2016 9:49:53 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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What makes you think Obama is weak? He gets (or simply does) most everything he wants.

;-)


3 posted on 03/03/2016 9:52:58 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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Something similar happened in the election of 1912 when Teddy Roosevelt created the Bull Moose party and Woodrow Wilson was elected.

There are several examples where ‘the Powers That Be’ have used underhanded schemes like these to elect someone that wasn’t hostile to their goals.


4 posted on 03/03/2016 9:53:43 AM PST by Vic S
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To: LexBaird

Maybe someone will come out with a line of wigs with “I Want my GOPee” on them! ;-)


5 posted on 03/03/2016 9:54:36 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: LexBaird

I actually could see a three or four way race.


6 posted on 03/03/2016 10:05:37 AM PST by rdl6989
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Actually the Constitutional Union Party of 1860 is thought to have been mostly Whigs who refused to support the Republican Party. (In some states the Republican Party wasn’t even on the ballot.) John Bell of Tennessee, their nominee, had been a Democrat at one point but more recently a Whig. There were apparently some remnants of the Know Nothings who voted for the Constitutional Union Party as well. They only took 13% of the popular vote.


7 posted on 03/03/2016 11:10:49 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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1860 was followed by 1861. Is that again on the horizon?


8 posted on 03/03/2016 11:17:06 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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The parallels aren't exact, but there are some remarkable similarities to the current situation.

"Gun ownership is crucial to the preservation of American freedoms. We may have to shoot Democrats. It happened in 1861 and it could happen again." - P.J. O’Rourke

9 posted on 03/03/2016 11:58:54 AM PST by atomic_dog
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No, this is more similar to the years in which the old Whig party broke apart due to factionalism about the slavery issue.

Some people think the Republican party was simply a renamed Whig party, but this isn’t true and most of the Whig establishment celebrities faded away from political prominence.


10 posted on 03/03/2016 12:59:09 PM PST by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a slasher, and find one.... what's your plan?)
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Honestly, I think we have to throw history out the window. What we’re experiencing in 2016 is unprecedented. Every few decades our country experiences significant changes in politics, culture, technology, or some other aspect of society that turns out to be tectonic in magnitude. And like other watershed moments in American history, they’re difficult to define or predict as they’re happening. Although people acknowledge that there seems to be a significant shift in political attitudes, they won’t likely know what hit them until it’s long over.


12 posted on 03/03/2016 1:26:15 PM PST by The_Harlequin
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There's no issue as divisive as slavery or interest group as militant as slaveowners around today.

Maybe this is more like 1896 and a few other elections where one part of a party broke off because it didn't like the nominee. The "Gold Democrats" or National Democratic Party didn't do at all well in the election. They did have the distinction of pairing a former Union and former Confederate general in their POTUS-VPOTUS team.

Similarly, in the 1960s Alabama and Mississippi Democrats had a habit of putting up their own slates of electors unpledged to the national parties nominees. John Anderson in 1980 has been seen as a breakaway choice of liberal and moderate Republicans, but he was more of a one man band than anything else and most of his votes came from liberal Democrats and independents.

I guess Roosevelt-Taft in 1912 might be seen as a parallel, except that this time the insurgents are more likely to get the nomination than the party stalwarts. You could also find a parallel to 1992 and 1996, except that Perot was a Trump like figure who worked outside the major parties, rather than inside one of them.

I don't really see Bernie's folks splitting from the party as a bloc. There are already enough small left-wing splinter parties that could benefit from anti-Hillary sentiment. Two questions: Is the Reform Party still around? And what are they likely to do this year if they are?

16 posted on 03/03/2016 2:03:33 PM PST by x
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