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To: Mr Rogers
Are you a leader in any area of your life that ever requires you to do distasteful things? Such as praise people because rightly or wrongly they are in positions of power that could make or break the thing you lead and have built over your entire life? Would you praise someone you didn't particularly like if it could make or break the chances of you or your wife or your children having an opportunity they actually deserve?

Are you a leader in any area of your life that has required you to change your position? Did you ever completely change the focus of your life?

Do you think that you are a better person, more suitable for Heaven, because you would not ever dare say 'piece of ass'?

Do you think if Trump had in fact repented or come to see past actions as not positive or wrong or harmful - even unGodly, that he would share that with you or the media?

I'm not name calling here: You strike me as a sort of sanctimonious person, self righteous. It's probably a template that gets applied to everything, including the people around you. My father was a so called very 'moral' man, but ultimately, morals are not the same as life. To make progress, even and perhaps in particular, spiritual progress, you have to make mistakes by being who you are, see your mistakes, change, re-evaluate. You can't just take Mr. Rogers interpretation of someone else's interpretation of someone who says they wrote down exactly what God said to do.

I like Cruz, a lot. I support Trump because I think he'd be more effective.

But have you seen Cruz's absolutely dishonest out-takes from his political commercials? Do you think he LIKES to have to do that? He does it because he's a politician. I'm not taking Cruz to task for that.

In the world, you are faced with a choice: You can be morally perfect like you, and name-call the people who go out and make mistakes and don't write Mr. Rogers a personal letter of apology and contrition the instant they realize they now see an error in their previous ways ... or you can go out into the world and gloriously kick some ass, trust that God has made you good but imperfect, and when you make an error, fix it and fix yourself.

It's interesting - I saw a book listed on Amazon called 'Surviving the Perils of Success' ... I didn't even read the synopsis. But I wonder ... if you read that book, would you find, expressed positively, humbly and in lesson format to teach the next guy, rather than lecture him, some of the contrition you demand?

I get that Trump's not you kind of guy. But 'you're kind of guy' is usually a carbon copy of yourself, and that's an egotistical and prideful way to select a president. Not that I said 'way' ... I didn't say you should support Trump ... just look at the 'way' you've picked. Or not!

160 posted on 02/28/2016 7:23:46 AM PST by tinyowl
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To: tinyowl

As a Christian who has been through rough times, I’d like to share the observation that also what we call “morals” today might in fact be a bowdlerized set of them. That things like courage and fortitude may be getting short consideration today.

C. S. Lewis picked up on this, and commented that by means of comparing historical ages one to another, we could discern differences between the moral tempers of those ages and notice how different morals fail or excel in different ages. And by looking upon those weak and strong points, we can get an idea of how they look to the Lord, who is always urging excellence in all morals.


170 posted on 02/28/2016 7:30:37 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: tinyowl

“Are you a leader in any area of your life that ever requires you to do distasteful things? Such as praise people because rightly or wrongly they are in positions of power that could make or break the thing you lead and have built over your entire life?”

What in the hell are you talking about? Do you think Trump sucks up to dictators because he is afraid of them? In any case - I’ve told my commanding officer to run his orders by legal or back off...not a good career move, but I’ve never regretted it.

“Do you think that you are a better person, more suitable for Heaven, because you would not ever dare say ‘piece of ass’?”

Actually, I used it on this forum. But yes, I’m a better man than Trump for not believing and treating women as “pieces of ass”. If you do not understand that, then you have no honor.

“I’m not name calling here: You strike me as a sort of sanctimonious person, self righteous.”

You strike me as a Trump worshiper, unable to admit there is something wrong with a man who praises the Communist Chinese for Tienanmen Square, praises Putin, praises North Korea and who has supported liberal democrats his entire life. You won’t admit there is something wrong with a man who simply hurls insults as a substitute for thought. You won’t admit that neither you nor Donald Trump knows what he intends to do in office, or even what he will believe tomorrow.

The problem is TRUMP - what does he believe, and will he believe it tomorrow? To answer that, you attack me. Very Trump-like, but pathetically dishonest and stupid.

Yes, I have principles. Those principles have resulted, at times, in my being beaten up and in my career being harmed - but I was not a fool to stand by what I believed. The astonishing thing is that in modern America, even on FreeRepublic, people believe having no principles is admirable.


180 posted on 02/28/2016 7:40:23 AM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of infants, ruled by their emotion)
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