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A Deal over Climate Change
Weekly Standard ^ | 2-18-2016 | IRWIN M. STELZER

Posted on 02/18/2016 9:25:15 PM PST by Citizen Zed

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Sounds complicated.
1 posted on 02/18/2016 9:25:15 PM PST by Citizen Zed
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It sounds to me like a tax designed to TILT, not level, the playing field.


2 posted on 02/18/2016 9:27:42 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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Sounds unnecessary.


3 posted on 02/18/2016 9:28:07 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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TO IRWIN M. STELZER :

SHUT UP, CUCK.

4 posted on 02/18/2016 9:28:16 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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The Weakly saying “Let’s raise taxes”
but they are good conservatives (my ***)...


5 posted on 02/18/2016 9:32:15 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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This is wrong in so many ways

First of all, other taxes will not be “reduced” given new income from carbon tax.

The whole idea of a need for a tax to combat the fraud that is global warming is ridiculous in itself. Why don’t we raise a tax to combat Bigfoot?

Finally, this will simply be a slush fund for government and progressive social-engineering schemes and their proponents.


6 posted on 02/18/2016 9:33:41 PM PST by PGR88
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Globalists love global warming, even if they have at least a room-temperature I.Q. and understand the “Science” is utter garbage.

The reason they love it is because it is yet another WMD for global corporations to crush smaller competitors, who can’t afford to pay $millions to specialized lawyers and lobbyists, and to move their manufacturing to smog-friendly Timbuktu.


7 posted on 02/18/2016 9:36:20 PM PST by Disestablishmentarian (.)
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A $20 per ton carbon tax would increase pump prices by about 18-cents per gallon, estimate Roberton Williams and Casey Wichman of the University of Maryland, not a large burden in this day of $1.75 gasoline.

Roberton Williams and Casey Wichman of the University of Maryland get 3% annual cost of living increases, unlike the peasantry.

And gasoline was $3.75 a gallon, not so long ago.

On second thought, if a carload of guys showed up and beat the tar out of these two college weenies, I might give the carload of guys some gas money, for the effort...

8 posted on 02/18/2016 9:36:33 PM PST by kiryandil ("Our Muslim-In-Chief, Barack Obama - the Quislaming in the White House")
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Why not a carbon tax? ... Because it is all a big lie and it is not intended to curb the climate. It is about control, revenue and redistribution of wealth based on a lie. Nonsense! BS to the nth degree. The left never stops with their bogeymen; when one is found to be false, discredited, another takes its place. Such is the modus operandi of the evil left.


9 posted on 02/18/2016 9:40:52 PM PST by Fungi
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those lower gas prices they’ve engineered by hamstringing the economy are sooooooo tempting to uni-party leftists.


10 posted on 02/18/2016 9:42:44 PM PST by dadfly
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I will gladly pay more taxes to stop man made global warming as soon as it is proved beyond any doubt (scientifically and empirically) that it is indeed caused by man and not the sun.

Until then? Yeah, they know where to put their tax scheme.


11 posted on 02/18/2016 9:51:47 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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I love the way he says if they got this new tax they would reduce some other tax. When has that ever happened. And this thing about “renewables” is the biggest farce ever.

Neither wind or solar are dependable enough to power the grid without backup from hydrocarbon, hydro, or nuclear to back them up. And the capacity of the backup system needs to be nearly as great as the full expected load which means you have to build twice the capacity into the system which is prohibitively expensive. They are planning on spending hundreds of millions of dollars to tear down dams currently supplying Southern Oregon and Northern California with electricity and irrigation. The Obama administration raised the licensing fees so much that it was not possible for the utility companies who own them to keep operating them. Insanity!

We are wasting all this money on perfecting “renewables” that have no realistic chance of ever providing enough power to supplying even todays energy requirements. The Chinese, the French, the Germans, the Indians and others have been funding large scale fusion projects that are finally beginning to pan out. The Chinese have already maintained a 90 million degree fusion reaction for nearly two minutes. Whoever successfully perfects large scale fusion power plants capable of producing electricity at a cost per megawatt competitive with today’s coal fired power plants will own the future. We have been wasting hundreds of billions of dollars trying to perfect technologies with no real promise.

http://www.popsci.com/chinas-experimental-fusion-reactor-hits-major-milestone


12 posted on 02/18/2016 9:52:48 PM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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Biggest reason not to do it is the entire premise is false and stupid.


13 posted on 02/18/2016 9:54:54 PM PST by buwaya
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so basically what we haVE HERE is a tax on a lie- it is a lie that man is causing climate change- NATURE causes cliamte change- period! Man’s contribution of CO2 to the atmosphere amounts to just 0.00136% of the atmosphere- that’s it folks! We are NOT causing climate change- The atmosphere isn’t warming up because man has caused a massive thick blanket of CO2 to surround our planet like a blanket- just 0.00136% of the atmosphere has CO2 in it as a direct result of man! Tell me how 0.00136% of the atmosphere can possibly capture enough heat to warm the atmosphere? It can’t- so little heat is captured that it amounts to nothing- so little heat is generated by the CO2 that it amoutns to nothing- what little heat does get created quickly reaches equilibrium with the surroundign colder atmosphere- Think about it- IF you put a drop of 100 degree water into a glass full to the rim with 90 degree water, it isn’t going to do a damn thing to change that temperature- EVEN IF you multiply the heat of the drop of water via some mechanism of physics or chemistry, or whatever, a couple of times- The water is goign to remain 90 degrees because there is far too much colder water compared to the tiny drop you add in-

We’ve added a drop of CO2 into the atmosphere figuratively speaking- EVEN after another 2000 years, it will still be a tiny insignificant drop- EVEN IF we quadrupedal global CO2 production

Peop-el do not understand how vast the atmosphere really is- all they hear is man produces blah blah tons of CO2 per year- It sounds like a lot UNTIL you consider how much hte atmosphere weighs

6 Quadrillion tons!

To compare how little CO2 we actually produce, It would be like letting out a puff of cigarette smoke inside a domed football stadium and claiming the heated breath of air and smoke ‘caused a catastrophic change within the football dome stadium”

There’s Nothing to fix folks- ANY tax in the name of global warmign is nothing but a SCAM to take your money away fro myou illegally to ‘fix’ a problem that is NOT a problem!


14 posted on 02/18/2016 10:09:24 PM PST by Bob434
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Just another cheap shot at the oil and gas business. This is the worst conceivable time to tax an industry that is vital to national security and economic prosperity, but is suffering severe market manipulation by the Saudis.

Despite his best efforts to hobble it, O&G growth was the only positive in Obozo’s otherwise disastrous tenure.


15 posted on 02/18/2016 10:24:52 PM PST by con-surf-ative
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Maybe an 18 cent a gallon tax on the price of gasoline is “not a large burden” to these moonbats Roberton Williams and Casey Wichman at the University of Maryland, but it is a large burden to the average American.

Besides, there is NO global warming.


16 posted on 02/18/2016 10:29:47 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Politicians and diapers must be changed often and for the same reason.....Mark Twain)
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Most forms of Carbon are black. Taxing black is racis’.


17 posted on 02/18/2016 10:30:10 PM PST by Paladin2
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Why not? Now that the main obstacle is dead, the climate creeps can do anything.


18 posted on 02/18/2016 11:00:01 PM PST by ZULU (If you support Stokes or Obama, you are too stupid to own a gun.)
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Sounds like another attack on seniors. A gas price increase of “only” 18 cents a gallon is a killer for those on fixed incomes. Plus since energy costs are not included in inflation calculations, there is no SS increase.

This year, SS went DOWN due to increased Medicare costs.


19 posted on 02/19/2016 3:23:40 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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Another idiot socialist supporting a scam


20 posted on 02/19/2016 3:43:43 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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