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To: Nextrush

The Seim video starts out saying it’s going to be a “practical, informational update.”
Then he immediately goes into conclusions, telling the viewer what to think. Then I left.
I’d like to know where to get the facts without any opinions.
What exactly happened there?


33 posted on 02/13/2016 6:55:30 AM PST by Buttons12
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To: Buttons12; Nextrush; Nachum; Faith65; LucyT

http://www.mogollonrimnews.com/freedom-or-tyranny/

Excerpt “Following the funeral the Finicum family gave a statement. Thara Finicum Tenney and Belle Finicum Collier said, “Many questions remain unanswered about our father’s death. We don’t want the media’s bias. We don’t want the FBI’s bias. We want the truth.”

The sisters said their dad had been called many things by the world this week but they call him Daddy. They said their “Daddy” believed he was following the law. “It was the federal government that was violating it. We agree with him. We also agree with Thomas Jefferson who once said, ‘When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.’”

Belle continued, choking back tears, “Do we believe that peaceful actions justify the use of deadly force? Do we believe that two hands up in surrender justifies the use of deadly force? Do we believe that following the rule of law, the U.S. Constitution justifies the use of deadly force? If we do, then where is liberty?”

This week I wept for the Finicum family, our country and the loss of innocence for a young girl, Victoria Sharp who now has body guards because she witnessed the murder of a fellow American at the hands of the authorities. Will you stand with the Patriots and demand a full investigation into the killing of LaVoy Finicum? Do you believe in Freedom or is tyranny acceptable?”


36 posted on 02/13/2016 9:01:10 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: Buttons12

Gavin Seim is entitled to his opinions and I tend to agree with them but not everything.

Gavin’s friendship with David Fry paid off saving Fry’s life twice.

First from the FBI assault by putting it on the internet and second by helping to talk David down from his suicidal episode.

I give Mr. Seim some credit for helping to get things resolved without bloodshed involving all four people.

I will listen to Mr. Seim, but not always agree with him probably but that’s OK.


40 posted on 02/13/2016 4:12:34 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS:REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Buttons12

I sorry I forget to link the videos of the two livestreams from Wednesday night (FBI assault), Thursday (surrender).

They are both multiple hours long, but if you listen you can reflect and draw your own conclusions.

Wednesday 2/10/16 FBI Assault

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOlrSain0lk

Thursday 2/11/16 The Surrender

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=616S8t9tek4


41 posted on 02/13/2016 4:24:03 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS:REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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