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To: Solson; odawg
As someone in business, Trump played the game...like virtually ALL others. There are no bribes. There are donations. The very same donations and sweetheart loans that Ted Cruz has and is accepting as part of his long career inside the beltway.

You apparently fail to see the difference between the owner and the owned. Trump is an owner. Cruz is owned.

Do you two not see that Donald Trump is the ultimate insider. He bought his way into the game as a businessman so that he could manipulate the system to his selfish advantage. You excuse Trump in this by saying that all Trump did was play the game like everybody else. Even like Ted Cruz.

Ted Cruz accepted loans which he must pay back, Donald Trump accepted loans many of which he bankrupted and Donald Trump gave contributions which is an entirely different matter.

But the idea that Donald Trump will change his motus operandi when he takes office just exploded in Iowa. It was Trump who supported big government crony capitalism to get elected, worse, Trump abdicates expanding biofuel subsidies. Ted Cruz, the alleged insider, to his credit defied the heretofore powerful biofuels special interest, a substantial voting bloc in Iowa, and stood for limited government and capitalism.

That is why I say that those who back Donald Trump believing against all evidence that he will bring reforms to the system which we all despise are fools. Donald Trump will play the same game from the different side of the table. It is Ted Cruz who stood up for capitalism in the Senate and in Iowa. All we have seen from Donald Trump in his business career and in Iowa is crony capitalism and big government. Donald Trump has shown himself in Iowa to be as opportunistic a politician as any who has sought special interest votes.

Only a fool will bet the nation that between the time of his election and it his walking into the Oval Office he will experience an epiphany.


65 posted on 02/13/2016 10:22:20 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

“Ted Cruz accepted loans which he must pay back”

Ted Cruz “accepted” (most of us “take out”) loans that were paid back by campaign contributions. He failed to report them, and told the voters he was liquidating his assets. Quite a different concept than taking out loans.

Ted Cruz does accept huge sums of money from people he is supposed to be opposed to, such as open homosexuals and the open borders crowd.

Do you really think that these large sum donors are giving away their money out of the goodness and generosity of their hearts?

“Ted Cruz, the alleged insider, to his credit defied the heretofore powerful biofuels special interest, a substantial voting bloc in Iowa, and stood for limited government and capitalism.”

Focus on “alleged insider”:

Ted Cruz helped Paul Ryan roll out TPA, an Obama/globalist agenda item. He campaigned for it, lied about it in reference to Sessions warnings about it usurping Congressional authority over immigration (you can google that) and voted for it. He later voted against it when his vote did not matter. Afterward, he claimed to Mark Levin that he did not know the immigration override was in the bill he voted on initially, by way of explaining why he voted against it the second time.

The Corker bill - prized Obama agenda initiative: Cruz was foursquare against the bill, but when it came time to vote, he voted for the bill. The bill was actually a treaty since it dealt with foreign countries, and it taunted the Constitutional treaty protection clause by requiring a two-thirds vote to DEFEAT the bill, a nice touch, and Mr. Constitution never said a word about the taunt. Now, he says that will be the first thing he takes aim at if elected. Rush Limbaugh said the reason why the bill passed is because Republican donors stand to make a killing on rebuilding Iran’s infrastructure. And, I will add, the donor’s know who they can count on.

Rubio, by the way, said that Obama intentional harms the United States. Rubio supports with votes Obama’s efforts all the way. Cruz does also, maybe to a lesser extent.

“But the idea that Donald Trump will change his motus operandi when he takes office just exploded in Iowa. It was Trump who supported big government crony capitalism to get elected...”

If you were to check with Ben Carson, he would have another take on what was explosive in Iowa.

When I was a kid, they use to call government subsidies pork barrel. It is still rampart all over the nation on every level of government and Cruz wants to be the big man pointing it out only in Iowa and phasing it out, over five years, of course.


78 posted on 02/13/2016 1:34:15 PM PST by odawg
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