And now allow me to be a pedant. I said "the constitution expresses who will be considered citizens under it (the constitution)." I did not say "the constitution expresses who will be considered natural born citizens under it (the constitution)."
Your exposition also overlooks the fact that not all persons born into a society or within the jurisdiction of a society are found to be citizens of those societies. See Vattel S:213, Inhabitants; and S:219, Vagrants; and S:227, Supplicants; as well as @:215, Children of citizens born in a foreign country, which operates in both directions, that is, the section also operates as "Children of aliens born in this country."
Ultimately, you have not settled on a source of law for defining NBC for US constitutional purposes. You are handwaving.
“Since you are intent on being pedantic about it, change my remark to “”I wasn’t touching on how a society arises, just remarking on the ramifications if a society does not arise.”
And now allow me to be a pedant. I said “the constitution expresses who will be considered citizens under it (the constitution).” I did not say “the constitution expresses who will be considered natural born citizens under it (the constitution).””
It is to be regretted you feel it is unnecessarily being pedantic, but it is the fine details of the wording that is being used and twisted by opponents to wrongfully assert the natural born citizen clause is undefined and/or means any person born with a U.S. citizen parent or in the jurisdiction of the United States is a natural born citizen. Consequently, these differences in wording, no matter how minute, have to be nailed own to prevent continued misrepresentation and misapplication. Also, the United States arose from a pre-existing population who maintained their previous allegiances to their parents, communities, and legislative sovereigns, and severed their allegiances to the feudal landlords and their royal sovereign in preference to their incorporated United States of America.
“Your exposition also overlooks the fact that not all persons born into a society or within the jurisdiction of a society are found to be citizens of those societies. See Vattel S:213, Inhabitants; and S:219, Vagrants; and S:227, Supplicants; as well as @:215, Children of citizens born in a foreign country, which operates in both directions, that is, the section also operates as “Children of aliens born in this country.”
Incorrect, because the definition applies only to the children of citizens, and mere inhabitants such as slaves and non-White inhabitants for example were until the 14th Amendment to the Constitution excluded as possible U.S. citizens. You see the same principle of citizenship at work in Ancient Greece with the Spartan citizens versus the Helots and the Athenian citizens versus their non-citizens.
“Ultimately, you have not settled on a source of law for defining NBC for US constitutional purposes. You are handwaving.”
No, that is totally wrong. I have repeated over and over and over again that natural born citizenship is governed by the same law that has been in use since the beginning of mankind, Natural Law. This is just as plain as the nose on a person’s face, the child is the natural born child of a natural mother and a natural father, and all three persons have one or more permanent and/or temporary sovereigns at the time the child is born. When the natural born child of the natural father and natural mother share one and only one sovereign, the child naturally acquires a duty of obedience and allegiance to the one and only same sovereign. In cases where the child is born owing a duty of obedience and allegiance to more than one sovereign, a statutory law or other manmade rule is required to adopt the child into the duty of obedience and allegiance of the sovereign the same as when a child with alien parents must be adopted by the sovereign. natural born citizens acquire citizenship involuntarily, whereas naturalized citizens such as a child born abroad with citizen parents must adopt and be adopted to acquire the citizenship. Ted Cruz adopted U.S. citizenship and the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952 adopted Ted Cruz into U.S. citizenship by naturalization at birth as stated in the Foreign Affairs Manual and the naturalization act. Despite all of the contrary obfuscation and gaslighting by government officials and lawyers, the meaning is quite simple to understand and to apply.