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To: ilgipper
The other day here, I compared Rubio to the good looking hunk we, of the female persuasion, knew about in high school. He'd flirt with any number of girls, pretend he was just dying to "get better acquainted and maybe they were available on Friday," if he didn't have football practice.

There were always other nicer, genuine guys who'd love to spend some quality time with a girl, guys who maybe didn't look quite so handsome and guys their mom actually liked better but no, she was waiting for the hunk to call!

If the hunk did call and did actually take her out, he was laughing at how stupid the girl was Monday morning in the locker room and telling the guys about what an "easy score" she was!

Some women never learn and men included.

They actually want to go for the liar because........add your own qualifier!

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!!!

11 posted on 02/05/2016 7:50:48 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: zerosix

I cannot get my bearings with Rubio. I do think he brings a great deal of conservatism to the table. More than any of our nominees since 80/84. He’s definitely got some flaws, and I am still disgusted with his road show to push the gang of eight bill. That said, I have never completely washed my hands of him because I think he still has good possibility. Definitely concerned about immigration and not to thrilled with his hawkishness and big brother tendencies on surveillance. On those issues, Cruz hit my libertarian needs in addition to general limited government. If it was issues in a vacuum driving the decision, Cruz is the match. When it comes to campaign chops, Rubio is better. Tough choice. When it comes time for my primary. I could potentially vote for any of the top 3 depending on where the race stands. I see what you are saying about Rubio. He could be the total poser. I don’t think he’s entirely insincere. I do think he feels he can pull a fast one on immigration.


13 posted on 02/05/2016 8:39:32 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: zerosix
The problem with your analogy is that Rubio isn't the flirt who runs away. Most people who actually know him seem to genuinely like the guy. He was elected Speaker of the Florida legislator by fellow Republicans, so they clearly thought he was responsible and respected him.

Here's a blurb from Wikipedia (links to supporting articles are there)

As speaker, Rubio "aggressively tried to push Florida to the political right," according to NBC News, and frequently clashed with the Florida Senate, which was run by more moderate Republicans, and with then-Governor Charlie Crist, a centrist Republican at the time.[40] Although a conservative, "behind the scenes many Democrats considered Rubio someone with whom they could work," according to biographer Manuel Roig-Franzia.[46]

Dan Gelber of Miami, the House Democratic leader at the time of Rubio's speakership, considered him "a true conservative" but not "a reflexive partisan," saying: "He didn't have an objection to working with the other side simply because they were the other side. To put it bluntly, he wasn't a jerk."[47] Gelber considered Rubio "a severe conservative, really far to the right, but probably the most talented spokesman the severe right could ever hope for."

Cruz has set himself up as the conservative Grand Inquisitor of the GOP, and is becoming as disliked by other candidates as he was in the Senate. Being right on all the issues doesn't help if you alienate so many people that you can't get elected, or effectively govern even if you do.

One thing that I do like in your analogy is football. Rubio played team sports, and actually had a football scholarship. Cruz didn't. Team sports help a lot of guys learn about teamwork, and can be a huge positive for socialization.

Ted's biggest flaw is that he just doesn't play well with others.

17 posted on 02/05/2016 8:59:25 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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