Posted on 02/02/2016 1:42:06 PM PST by brickdds
Michael Berry Reaches Out to Trump Supporters Link to Audio on Website:
http://www.ktrh.com/onair/michael-berry-13986/michael-berry-to-trump-supporters-stop-14334772/
FWIW, I already stated that I am not big on polls when I posted that link. I also do not have any love affairs with politicians. I realize that they generally all screw you at some point. Trump is not a long time politician as Cruz is. I guess you think Cruz is different but I think he is probably not.
The single reason is she is not a lawyer. I am not the one hating. You are. I told you why I do not believe Cruz. I even made a joke about taking his non lawyer Mom’s word on important legal matters which you took seriously. TDS is amusing to me.
“Trump is not a long time politician as Cruz is. I guess you think Cruz is different but I think he is probably not.”
I’m not saying Cruz doesn’t have his issues. I am realistic. However, I see a lot of problems with Trump’s recent conversion to conservatism and I think Cruz is the better choice over all.
The Wall, Immigration, Gay Marriage...all of these issues depend on one thing...SCOTUS picks...because the next President will get 2-3 appointments. Trump is a wild card in the area of selecting SCOTUS justices. He even stated that a liberal sister/sister-in-law (can’t remember which) would make a great appointment. That is scary. Despite, Cruz’s failures, I don’t think anyone has any evidence to doubt that Cruz would do his best to appoint conservative judges. On the other hand, there is significant evidence that Trump would appoint moderate to moderate-left judges. That is the main reason why I support Cruz.
“TDS is amusing to me.”
See, just when I thought we were having a good debate, you have to make assumptions and attempt to insult. That is what is ruining Trump and souring everybody on Trump supporters here on FR.
I’m not hating Trump. I’ve often stated on this forum that I like his brashness sometimes. Yet none of that negates his liberal stance on the issues or his constant changing of his positions to suit his audience. Those facts are disturbing and it amazes me that otherwise competent people would fall for his empty rhetoric much like the leftists did for Obama.
You stated that you give Trump the benefit of the doubt on all issues and I merely pointed out that you refuse to give an equal pass to Cruz on any issue. That is called hypocrisy.
Your only argument is that Cruz should have known about the dual citizenship, but you have continuously failed to demonstrated why he should have known. ‘Just because’ is not a valid answer. I gave you several plausible reasons as to why Cruz would not have known, but you refuse to even consider those reasons. I think that makes you the hater with Cruz derangement Syndrome!
I do not give Cruz a pass because he is a professional politician. I also don’t believe everything that he says because all professional politicians lie, at least in my experience. I am willing to give non-politicians more slack than I give professional politicians because I think that is what we need. We got where we are as a country with Ivy League educated lawyer politicians in charge for most of the last 25 years. I don’t think we desperately need to put another one in charge. I think we need to elect more non politicians if we want to change the direction our country is going. I do not care much what you think of Trump. You probably should not care much if I think Cruz is a typical politician who is not a NBC and not qualified to be president.
“I do not give Cruz a pass because he is a professional politician.”
Good grief...you don’t think Trump is a professional and should be accountable for his positions? If it wasn’t for Trump funding the Clintons and liberal agendas for the last 30+ years then we may not have had to suffer from them and our country may not be in need of saving. Ever think of that??
Trump is a billionaire, wall street, elitist that flies around in a huge, fancy private jumbo jet and brags about his money constantly. That is certainly more elitist than Cruz could ever be. Corrupt people like Trump that buy politician votes as a part of their business, as you already admitted, are the people tearing this country apart. Trump is no better than Soros! Trump IS the establishment!
I don’t care what you think or who you vote for. You’ve already proven that you’re a hypocrite and not very rational or logical in your thinking since you’ve invalidated your own arguments. You apply your arbitrary rules when you want and ignore them when it suits you. You’re just a Cruz hater and nothing more! Luckily, you’re in the itsy bitsy minority in Texas!
I think you have it 180 degrees out. I think is not business people but our professional politicians tearing the country apart. Cruz has been doing the professional politician gig for over 2/3 of his adult life. At least Trump pays for the jet he flies around in with his own money, unlike Cruz. Cruz is undeniably a professional politician and I suspect he is no more honest than most other members of his class. Cruz is establishment through and through. he is an Ivy League educated lawyer and a professional politician. I don’t see how somebody can get much more establishment than being a US Senator. Trump has held how many political positions in his life? How many bills has Trump voted for that screwed our country? I can think of at least a couple for Cruz. The itsy, bitsy minority not voting for Cruz will likely have more votes than Cruz does come the primary. We shall see. I am looking at my absentee ballot now. I will likely wait until next week to fill it out and send it in. Mail takes a while from here.
“I think you have it 180 degrees out.”
So you will give Trump a pass regardless what he says simply because he wasn’t a professional politician? You’re such a hypocrite! You do realize that Trump flirted with running for President in 2012 and even participated in some of the presidential forums and news interviews exploring his chances. During that time, Trump made his comments supporting liberalism. That would make Trump a politician at the same time that he made his support of liberal policies public (aka pro-gun ban).
“Trump pays for the jet he flies around in with his own money”
Ummmm...so does Soros and the Goldman Sachs folks. It is just more proof that Trump is a paid-for shill and a leading member of the Wall Street crowd that is destroying our country!
“How many bills has Trump voted for that screwed our country?”
Well, considering Trump funded the Clintons, Planned Parenthood, the gay marriage movement, pro-abortion groups, AND anti-gun groups to include McAuliffe’s campaign then I would say that Trump has done considerable damage to our country. Those are just a few “votes” that may have failed without the diligent financial support of Trump.
“The itsy, bitsy minority not voting for Cruz will likely have more votes than Cruz does come the primary”
I promise you’re so very wrong! Cruz will win in a landslide. There is NO DOUBT!! My guess is that you were a Debra Medina fan who claimed she would win and she barely got out of the single digits. Trump is a LOSER and will be NO different! Your are the tiny minority and always will be in Texas! You should just move back to whatever liberal State you came from and save us all the headache!
Your guess about Medina would be wrong. I did not say Cruz will lose what I said was others will get more votes than Cruz, making his voters not a huge majority. Trump single handedly funded the Clintons, Planned Parenthood and anti-gun groups? You compare Trump to Soros? Cruz and Harry Reid have more in common between them. They are both members of the same exclusive establishment club. Get a grip. I was right before, observing TDS is extremely amusing.
“I said was others will get more votes than Cruz”
I still contend, based on general Trump dislike in Texas, that Trump won’t break 20%.
“Trump single handedly funded the Clintons, Planned Parenthood and anti-gun groups? “
No, but his huge donations certainly did help those organizations so Trump is still responsible.
“You compare Trump to Soros?”
Trump is no different than Soros. They are both billionaires that think they know better than us little peons, but in reality they are destroying our country. Name a billionaire that has funded and supported the liberal agenda for 30+ years...that sure sounds like Trump or Soros!!
“Cruz and Harry Reid have more in common between them.”
No, not at all. Trump is the one that has publicly embraced Reid and Pelosi and said they were friends and work well together. Reid and Cruz have nothing in common and hate each other.
“They are both members of the same exclusive establishment club.”
Cruz is NOT establishment. That is your foolish opinion, but is not support by ANY facts. Trump, on the other hand, IS Wall Street, Establishment, which is proven by his support from Rove, Brown, and the list goes on...
No TDS here, but you’re too blind to look at the FACTS, which proves you’re either delusional, stupid, or just plain dishonest!
Cruz is the epitome of professional politician and DC insider. His schtick of being an outsider while he is a member of the US Senate would be laughable if so many people did not swallow it. He is also not eligible to be president. I guess we will see him many Americans vote Canadian.
“Cruz is the epitome of professional politician and DC insider”
That is your OPINION and is not supported by ANY FACTS! Trump IS the special interests that bribes politicians to get what he wants. Both you and Trump admit to that and that is the very definition of Establishment and DC Insiders, especially since Trump has been doing that for over 30 years!!!!
“He is also not eligible to be president.”
PROVE IT...Please provided the section of the Constitution that defines NBC or please provide the SCOTUS court case that rules whether a single parent citizen can pass NBC status to a child. The issue has not been judged so all you have is your OPINION. Even Rush, Hannity, Levin, the State of IL, Trump, and most legal scholars agree that Cruz IS eligible. To say otherwise is nothing but loony birther nonsense.
Trump’s schtick is that he is a born again conservative, just in time for the elections...how convenient! Go ahead and vote for Trump, the ONLY LIBERAL demoncrat candidate. I’ll vote for Cruz, the ONLY CONSERVATIVE candidate. Thanks!
“That is your OPINION and is not supported by ANY FACTS!”
Right. Cruz has been a professional politician for more that 2/3 of his adult life. He is an elected member of perhaps the most exclusive establishment club in the world. No facts? Open your eyes. There are none so blind as this who refuse to see. As I said, Cruz’s outsider schtick would be laughable if it were not for that fact that so many believe it.
Just being a politician does NOT make Cruz establishment. Cruz fought the establishment on every turn for his entire career.
Trump IS the Establishment because he funded every liberal agenda out there. Trump has been a career Wall Street and Establishment guy for over 30+ years. That is 2 times longer than Cruz. If you can’t see that then your either blind or a fool...you tell me which!
Cruz has been a politician almost his entire adult life, working his way up in the establishment from his time at Harvard on. He has been striving for power since he was a kid. Cruz is now a US Senator. You simply cannot get much more establishment than that. Trump has never held public office. He has never had the power to have any effect on the average American’s life like Cruz does. Trump has always been on the outside of the halls of US power looking in and the establishment wants to keep him out. Ted Cruz is more than just a typical establishment guy. He is a super successful, fast track establishment guy. I think it is very disingenuous of him and his supporters to claim he is not. Who should I believe, you and Ted or my lying eyes?
Are you going to keep posting the same drivel?? Just because you keep posting your opinion over and over does NOT make it true.
“Trump has never held public office”
Neither has Soros, but we all know that Soros has been involved in politics and seeks to damage our country. Trump is NO different.
By Trump’s own admission, Trump has been using his money to influence people and politics his entire life, much longer than Cruz. Trump IS the establishment since he funds the corrupt politicians in order to get them to do what he wants. Trump’s corruption make him the ultimate insider because he sets the agenda with his bribes. Unfortunately, Trump has a history of pushing liberal agendas instead of conservative ones. That is another documented FACT!!
“Who should I believe, you and Ted or my lying eyes?”
Well, your lying eyes must be blind because Cruz has fought against the establishment his entire career and that is why he is successful and all of the establishment politicians in D.C. hate Cruz. Even Rush, Hannity, Savage, and Levin will credit Cruz with stopping the Gang of 8 bill and attempting to stop Obamacare. That is why the establishment hates Cruz and LOVES Trump. I think Trump supporters that claim otherwise are blatant liars because they are two faced and claim Cruz is the most hated politician in D.C. and can’t get along with anyone, but then they also want to claim the establishment loves him. It can’t be both ways.
Trump is being supported by Rove, Scott Brown, just to name a few of the establishment that is giving Trump a hand. Trump is nothing but a spoiler candidate, just like Perot, and his mission is to help Rubio get elected. We can thank Trump and his minions for 4 more years of a demoncrat president!
Trump is ON RECORD wanting to implement single payer/universal healthcare, which is even worse than Obamacare, Trump supports subsidies, Trump supported TARP and Kelo. Good thing Trump didn’t have a vote or he would voted to ban our guns too. Trump IS your Establishment candidate along with Rubio.
In your world a successful private businessman is establishment and a sitting US Senator is not. People like Trump have to play the game that people like Cruz set up to be successful and you condemn the business guy. Have you ever considered that perhaps the business guys might be happy if they didn’t have to pay off politicians? Like I said, vote Canadian establishment insider if you want to. I don’t care what you do. Have a great day.
“In your world a successful private businessman is establishment and a sitting US Senator is not”
It depends on the businessman and Senator. If Trump had stayed out of politics and not used his money to fund liberal agendas then I wouldn’t condemn Trump, but Trump not only funded politicians, but he also funded Planned Parenthood, pro-gay groups, and anti-gun groups...none of which have anything to do which him running a business. That makes Trump NO different than Soros!!
Besides, like I said before, there are many business people that don’t give into corruption and actively bribe politicians like Trump did. You’re pretty cynical to assume that all business people do business like that, but you would be wrong in any case.
Don’t worry, I WILL vote, Cruz, the U.S. CONSERVATIVE candidate, while you vote Trump, the LIBERAL demoncrat candidate. Good luck!
Go Canada!
“Go Canada!”
That kind of comment is nothing more than you showing everyone that you’re a snot.
Oh well...Go SOROS...I mean liberal Trump!!!
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