That's where "Conservatives" are today. Wacko Birds.
To any Trumpophiles who might actually read this & wish to blast me, please know I don't care.
And this agog infatuation with a candidate is simply embarrassing to watch.
I identify myself as a “social and constitutional conservative.” That helps clarify things. And that is why I support Ted Cruz. But there’s no way Trump should be thought of as a conservative or be associated with the term. Trump is not guided by conservative principles.
I think Trump is the best conservative capable of winning the Presidency. You think Cruz is the best conservative capable of winning the Presidency.
There, that s the best argument I got and I haven t belittled anyone, except for the apostrophe. Damn the apostrophe all to hell.
Start identifying yourself, as I have, with freedom, individual, political, and economic. Not the Libertarian Party, but a true Lover of Freedom. Political freedom is a country ruled by law, not man, in our case, the Constitution, which is our only legal bulwark of freedom against federal tyranny.
“Now I am embarrassed to use the Conservative label for fear I will be associated with this person who has co-opted it.”
My advice is suck it up and get over yourself.
The term “conservative” became worthless a few years ago. It happened when our so called conservative leaders in congress rammed cromnibus through, funding another expansion of government. Another stake was placed in its heart just last month when the GOP conservatives, led by Ryan and Mconnell, rammed another budget through, expanding government and fully funding all of Obama’s agenda, including funds for planned parenthood. It was finally destroyed when these same conservatives rammed through funding for the biggest corporate welfare spigot of our time and a thing that should be anathema for all that called themselves “conservative”, the ex/Im bank. Focusing on Trump and other candidates ignores this reality. We’ve moved on based on the lies and bastardization of the term. You should as well. It’s time to remove them all and start over.
For me I have been voting Republican for 40 years and only Reagan really panned out. I would consider him only moderately Conservative. It seems most Establishment conservatives have replaced Conservatism with international laissez faire, a policy that erases borders and reduces all nations to serf status and the international corporation are the land lords. Many call this cabal the Cheap Labor Express.
Trump comes along and finally talks about this without being PC. It is a miracle and I have decided that if a guy like him can actually slow this down then the political calculations are that he gets my support for that reason alone. Again if you feel that the USA is nearly terminal like me then their is very little to loose at this point.
Well, with every day that goes by I get more and more annoyed with Walker for dropping out.
And while I can see the appeal of Trump, and even appreciate his “moving the goal posts” on things like immigration, like you I’m flummoxed by the support he has gotten from folks who are quick to throw anyone else over board for one false word or one mistaken stance.
But here is Trump, with his bs flag flying freely, and they are happy to jump on the bandwagon.
I really don’t know what to think these days.
Not happy with what it seems to stand for today. I now would say “yes I am conservative, not like that new brand of conservatives”. I guess I would say I would be a Cruz/Lee conservative now.
Plenty conservatives support Trump like almost everyone I know in the South
SOME Cruz folk think they own it
Most Trump folks I know like Cruz too
But noooooooooooooooo!
That’s not good enough
Like ancestor, like son. Your great-great-grandfather left home to join an army whose function was to make war on the family he left in the South.
And you bemoan the future of the nation while berating the candidate best-positioned to bring about change.
No wonder you’re conflicted.
The Conservative Donald Trump:
- Tough talk on Immigration.
- Tough nationalistic talk. That, in and of itself, is not necessarily limited to conservatives.
So, where else is he conservative?
You sound like me. This cult of personality will fade.
But also, when there's so much rejection and negativity out there it was bound to come full circle and hit not just the more moderate candidates, but the ones who claim to be the most conservative as well.
Constitutional conservative and Tea Party advocate.
Why do people feel the need to “self-identify”? Are we all Caitlyn jenners now?
The call of groupthink in America is overwhelming.
What happened to independant thought? Can’t we all just vote for the candidate that appeals to us - personally - without allowing the media to pigeon hole us into their predetermined catagories?
Listen to, watch the candidates...don’t base your preference on what your friends and deadheaded media types tell you. I mean, they’re telling you THEIR opinions, why can’t you have an opinion of your own, with their approvals?
You’re just as much a citizen of this country as they are, you can listen to the candidates, just like they do... But people seem to let their brains idle until some mini-skirted anchor chick tells them what to think, and how to vote.
My gawd, America...grow some balls, make your own decisions and screw the party labels. We have seen the politicians break their oaths, lie, and screw the voters in both parties. Yet, we keep coming back for more?
The constitution doesn’t specify a party affiliate requirement to be president. The founders specified the few requirements of the individual to run for president.
If you meet someone new, do you rely on your friends to tell you if you like them or not?
Turn off the media and engage your brains, we’ll be a lot better off!
Basically, I think we all want the same thing.
We want:
--to rein in Federal Spending
--to eliminate, redirect, or severely downsize several Federal Agencies, including (but not limited to) The EPA, TSA, NSA, DHS, DO Education, DO Energy, HHS, IRS, and others
We want our RKBA uninfringed, as promised.
We want our military strong, combat ready, and competently led, without social experimentation and special interest experimentation which affects mission readiness and effectiveness, often at ridiculous expense.
We want our borders secure.
We want to remove those illegally here, and eliminate the possibility of returning for those who have committed crimes here other than just being here.
We want to strengthen American Industry, and put America back to work.
We will need a serious restructuring of taxation in this country to accomplish that, likely a flat tax which is low enough to allow growth.
We need to eliminate the tax on breathing: repeal Obamacare.
We need to ensure access to the resources we have, and that means opening Federal Lands to mining, logging, and the exploration for oil and gas resources to ensure a secure supply of what we need in the event of war or other failures in supply chains from elsewhere.
We need to end the seemingly limitless slaughter of the unborn.
We need to end omnibus bill packages which include unrelated legislation.
We need to limit again the power of the Executive Branch, restore the business of writing laws to the Congress, and quit giving the ability to regulate with force of law to unelected bureaucrats.
That's a warm-up, I'm sure I have left things out.
Now we need to decide who is most likely to get that done without compromising those points.
We have to be successful.
We do need to raise the bar from 'he said/she said' and 'I saw it on twitter' to more substantial discussion of why we think one candidate or the other would be more faithful to such an agenda and whether they would have the conviction to see it through, even against opposition from their own Party Members in Congress.
That will require at least an attempt at civil discourse, and that we step back and emotionally detach from those candidates in order to dispassionately evaluate them, especially in light of developments during the campaign and additional information which may be disclosed.
We're FReepers.
If anyone can do this, we can.
Let this site be the voice of sanity, even if we disagree.
Calpublican? Meaning those that produced Regan? Anyway you are absolutely right about Trump. Just go to Mark Levine website or Facebook and you will feel better knowing you are not alone. That being said! Sarah Palin’s attempt to bring him slightly over Tea Party way was a valiant effort. If not very well executed. I’m first generation American with deep roots in middle European war and peace. Mostly war. But my great,great grandfather was the French Admiral that brought the fleet of ships to America with Lady Liberty on board. We deep rooted Conservatives need to face the facts. We need to get through to Trump somehow and teach him to be a grown-up. We can’t abandon him. He might be appointing up to 4 supreme court justices. Time to circle the wagons, vote Cruz, but have a plan to convince Trump to reject the Dark Side.