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All Good & Well to B--ch about Outsourced Jobs, but Don't Shop at Wal-Mart
Freep | 1/22/2016 | CharlesOconnell

Posted on 01/22/2016 10:09:16 AM PST by CharlesOConnell

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To: riverdawg

Everbody’s got their gris-gris. And humans love their simple rallying cries. “Complicated situations have complicated answers” just doesn’t look cool on signs waving above a crowd.


21 posted on 01/22/2016 10:35:12 AM PST by discostu (Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right B, A, Start)
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To: CharlesOConnell

OK, got it, don’t shop at Walmart, or Sears, Costco, Kmart, Fry’s Electronics, Sam’s Club, you all have t5o fill in all the retailers near you. NOW, maybe the author can tell me where we shop in America that doesn’t sell products from outsourced jobs? Rag on Walmart all you want, go ahead shut them down...............whoops, now you have out jobbed all the people they employ in America, that damn evil Walmart! Somehow I just don’t feel all that great when I buy the same products somewhere else for more money than I pay at Walmart.


22 posted on 01/22/2016 10:35:21 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: central_va

Tariffs and non-tariff barriers to Chinese imports will mainly harm U.S. consumers through higher prices for final goods. In addition, U.S. manufacturers would end up paying more for intermediate goods imported from China, which would reduce the competitiveness of our final goods manufactured here and consumed in the U.S. or in export markets overseas.


23 posted on 01/22/2016 10:37:06 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: discostu

Good post.


24 posted on 01/22/2016 10:38:00 AM PST by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: Fiddlstix

Yeah, people forget that when the idea first started getting discussed of how America was going to become a service economy the driver envisioned for that was NOT outsourcing, it was automation. We’ve known for a long time that we were going to manufacture our way out of actually needing people to manufacture stuff (which is amusingly ironic to anybody who took and remembers Latin), it’s an inevitable outcome of the manufacturing line.


25 posted on 01/22/2016 10:38:47 AM PST by discostu (Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right B, A, Start)
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To: central_va
No tariffs. Cut or eliminate the taxes and regulations. The American worker in an environment of similar government cost load is much more productive- produces much more output per dollar of input than the low wage people in Indonesia and China. The reason business are going elsewhere is the government costs incurred here. The tariffs will increase the cost of domestically made product and reduce efficiency here (same thing) as well as cut into our ability to export because our tariffs will be retaliated upon with their tariffs. We had a similar situation in 1980 to that today. Taxes and regulations were strangling American business. Reagan reduced taxes and removed much regulation. Then, if you are too young to have noticed, we embarked upon a 25 year boom that it took Bush II to wound and Hussein to kill by piling on the Regulations and Taxes. Why would an American company stay in America where it can't make money because it has to pay a host of bureaucrats both in the cost of regulation and in the higher taxation.
26 posted on 01/22/2016 10:41:48 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: discostu
The whole Chinese manufacturing phenomenon was contrived thru government intervention.

Before the 1970s China was basically a huge North Korea. It was so backwards it wasn't even funny. Then, to promote a "New World Order" the USA in its infinite wisdom decided to artificiality give the Chicoms technology, money and fixed contracts and then transplanted factories from the USA to to China. The whole thing was done to make China stronger in the fight against the USSR and the cold war. The a funny thing happened, the USSR collapsed under its own weight and we were left holding the bag on a policy that no longer had application. This China policy was kept in place for no good reason except to make international gloBULList corporations an their international stock holders rich.

Again this is nothing but and example of humongous international central planning. It pits US workers against the Asian peasants and we are bleeding dry, wealth is being transferred out of the USA.

27 posted on 01/22/2016 10:43:29 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: arthurus
The tariffs will increase the cost of domestically made product and reduce efficiency here

Ah, no it won't. That is silly talks.

28 posted on 01/22/2016 10:44:53 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: arthurus
Why would an American company stay in America where it can't make money

O so no American company made money until the Chinese peasants saved up from ourselves. That is rich.

29 posted on 01/22/2016 10:46:23 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: nascarnation

I buy groceries and get oil changes at WM. Best prices. In addition, I bought sweat pants, Made in Vietnam. I liked them so well I went back and boought 2 more pair. Not fancy name brand. But, I’m not trying to impress the elite. Just a poor old redneck here in Fl. Man these pants are comfortable.


30 posted on 01/22/2016 10:47:46 AM PST by papageo
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To: central_va

China is a manufacturing phenomenon because they have lots of people that will work really cheap and basically no regulation. Companies can do whatever the hell they want over there. Also, being on the other side of the planet, it’s handy for distribution everywhere. Every aspect of building is cheaper, and distribution breaks even.

Meanwhile of course, the China obsession is missing the changes in the world. American (and non-American) companies are building factories all over the world, the big growth area right now is Latin America. Most of our cars are being built there, Mexico and Brazil are major manufacturing hot spots.

It’s not central planning, it’s good business. If you want more manufacturing in America you need to make it a good business decision. And the path to that is NOT tariffs, all that does is make businesses move elsewhere. You make China bad they go to Mexico, make Mexico bad they’ll go further south, make that bad they’ll go to India.


31 posted on 01/22/2016 10:49:55 AM PST by discostu (Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right B, A, Start)
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To: discostu

They will dump it all on europe. And don’t forget about all of the manufacturing capacity we shipped to china. They can build all of that, we can’t because china has it now.

The US woild have to go through another industrial revolution to get back what we gave away over the last 40 years.


32 posted on 01/22/2016 10:57:27 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: discostu
I think Free Traitors™ like you who divorce politics from econimcs are the most dangerous peole to come along since Communists. Actually I would prefer fighting Communists as I have more respect for them than the Free Traitors™.

If we continue to put Americas last, there will be a socialist/communist revolution, kind of the opposite of what economic Liberians want.

Getting back to tariffs, they can reduce or even eliminate income taxes, help balance the budget, promote domestic manufacturing and strengthen the country monetarily. All good things.

The 30 years of destructive industrial policies need to be stopped and something new tried. Not much left to loose.

33 posted on 01/22/2016 10:59:35 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

You neither understand economics nor much English.


34 posted on 01/22/2016 11:03:22 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: central_va

Prices here will rise because competition from abroad is reduced or eliminated. The drive for efficiency decreases when competition decreases. Why find ways to make things cheaper when there is not something to be cheaper than?


35 posted on 01/22/2016 11:04:57 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: arthurus
You neither understand economics nor much English.

If you divorce politics form economics you are a fool.

36 posted on 01/22/2016 11:05:42 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: arthurus
Prices here will rise because competition from abroad is reduced or eliminated.

There is still domestic competition, or did you just forget that because you are so fixated on foreign interests?

37 posted on 01/22/2016 11:07:15 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

You reinforce my observation. You can’t even fathom just what it is I am talking about.


38 posted on 01/22/2016 11:07:39 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: arthurus

I minored in macro economics. I used to be a Free Traitor™ then I opened my eyes.


39 posted on 01/22/2016 11:09:36 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Domestic competition starts from a higher cost basis with all the government costs. There is less incentive to improve. You would deny people access to inexpensive goods in order to preserve the high taxes and stifling and totalitarian regulations. Are you really a believer in the Total State?


40 posted on 01/22/2016 11:09:45 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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