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To: BobL

Not true Bob...for my part anyhow....I just want trump supporters to provide SOME shred of evidence that the man has any actual sincerely held conservative beliefs. Something that is not just him flapping his gums.

Ultimately it comes down to this, I think...trump supporters, for whatever their various reasons are, are willing to take him at his current word. Anti-trumpers do not have that faith, we look at empirical evidence that all points elsewhere.


231 posted on 01/21/2016 6:32:28 PM PST by Axeslinger (Trump: the Kaitlyn Jenner of conservatism. One's not a woman, one's not a conservative.)
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To: Axeslinger

My one shred of evidence that Trump has always had conservative tendencies is a lifetime of raising his children with conservative values!!! The way his children have been raised tells me EVERYTHING I need to know about the man!!! All of his LIB speak while trying to be successful in the state of NY as a huge developer mean zip to me!! Just look at his kids!!!


241 posted on 01/21/2016 6:55:48 PM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Axeslinger

“Ultimately it comes down to this, I think...trump supporters, for whatever their various reasons are, are willing to take him at his current word. Anti-trumpers do not have that faith, we look at empirical evidence that all points elsewhere.”

We have to. We took candidates coming from the usual places (governor, Senator, etc.) at their word and based on their prior record that they would be CONSERVATIVES, and with very few exceptions, we kept being DOUBLE-CROSSED. For a person like me, with no political connections, it becomes VERY DIFFICULT to trust anyone from that system and, sadly, Cruz is from that system and has done some questionable things in both his campaign and after being elected to the Senate, and he will still need the BIG MONEY (i.e., GOPe) to get the top job.

So it becomes easier for us to look at motivation, and when we do that, we see that Cruz has a lot to gain by being top dog, while Trump, worth billions, has no other rational reason to put himself through this nightmare, as he could just as easily fund a very nice retirement anywhere in the world. That leads most of his supporters to believe he is telling the truth, as he has nothing to gain from lying (other than what the mind readers say about boosting his ego)...so Trump wins that, easily.

In fact, ironically, the only person likely NOT LYING to us is Jeb, who promises to flood this country with enough Illegals to put a final nail in coffin for conservatism. Thankfully that’s not working too well for him.


252 posted on 01/21/2016 7:30:19 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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