Posted on 01/20/2016 1:18:54 PM PST by Citizen Zed
I totally agree. Everyone on this forum should go down to the local VA and volunteer for a year and spend time with the returning vets. Dealing with the ones who are physically whole is hard enough but dealing with the ones who have lost a body part or more is simply unimaginable. When I come back from one of these visits I am not myself for several days afterwards.
It is simply indescribable to explain what these people have gone through and to explain how utterly callous and self centered the rest of the society is to their sacrifice.
I agree. My father was in WWII (Battle of the Bulge). I was born several years later but, from what my mom and brothers and sisters said, he was never the same person after he returned home. He did not talk about the war, but was sometimes verbally abusive to his family. I loved him totally, but remember he had difficulty saying, “I love you” or “I’m proud of you” to any of us. He developed a heart condition in his early fifties and died a relatively young man. I believe that heart condition might never have happened had he had someone to talk to about what he went through during the war. World War II vets kept it all inside.
I’m not meaning to be cute here. My question is real. What do you think they should do for them?
I think the context of your question has already been answered by many here.
With that being said, what the hell does the son of Sara Palin have anything to do with the presidency run of Donald Trump?
Or are you just using the problems of a vet to further your own dislike of Trump?
Time for you to let it go bro since you have no F'n idea what problems Track Palin may be dealing with nor do you or any one else have a right to know.........
There is no excuse for him hitting a woman. None.
It’s such a tragedy the way they are treated upon return from serving.
I don’t know what your “bro” means since I’m not. Anyway, I made my position clear in further posts. If PTSD is being used as an excuse for beating another person that’s just sick. It’s an insult to all of our vets. I don’t know that and neither do you. What I do know is that if it were a Dems son FR would be condemning him for insulting vets everywhere by blaming his problems, even if they are real, on PTSD.
He’s a vet whom his mother alleges has PTSD. That totally makes the girl unbeaten, healed, and whole again.
The kid needs help regardless of his PTSD status, which Sarah did not even specifically name. He’s had past issues. What’s sick is that apparently nothing has been done to help him. Broken VA system or not, the Palin’s have the financial ability to help him. They shouldn’t have to if he truly has PTSD, the VA should, but they can.
As for kicking somebody when there down, my only slight was to the rest of the brawling crew who’ve never seen war. When you do that in public, expect the public to comment.
I have an alcoholic vet in my family - a cousin - who never even saw combat - he served before the Persian Gulf. He became a drunk from the sheer boredom of spending months on a naval base in the middle of nowhere. And in his case, the VA takes care of him. Housing, food stamps, medical, even though he can’t hold down a job.
Thanks Citizen Zed,As a parent of 6 I know how hard it is as many of us do.Prayers for her Children and Grandchildren.
“Gadorsky!!!!”
I didn’t mean to be dumpy. I don’t know Track’s condition. I’m sure all our brave men and women who saw combat come back as different people. It’s sad our Country does not do more. What I was referring to was the fact that every time there is some drama with the Palins, whether it’s Bristol’s baby daddys, family brawl or this, it’s always someone else’s fault.
I agree with George Carlin, “if we still called it ‘Shellshock’ those Vets would’ve gotten the help they needed.....I’ll betcha.....I’ll betcha!”
I was, for many years, a volunteer with Veterans Bedside Network. That’s a group of theater people who entertain and interact with sick vets (mostly the mentally ill and drug abusers) at VA hospitals around New York City. We went into the locked wards. Never have I had such a rewarding experience. Those vets were wonderful people - some very ill but they always perked up when we got them to enact little playlets. It’s a two way street when you volunteer - they help the volunteer just as much as the volunteer helps them.
I sense you have had very little, if any, contact with a person suffering from PTSD. A little insight would do you a world of good. Perhaps you should reach out and find out a bit more of this and the effects. Then again, maybe you just want to push your view out there, which you are certainly entitled to. You just come off like a person who speaks of that which he knows little about.
That would have an enormous effect, and I agree with you. Since it is now mandatory to do ‘charity’ work of some type to graduate high school, I think a requirement to spend even a few hours with the Vets would give them insight that so few seem to have.
Thank you for what you do and offer to the vets, Lord knows they need all the compassion and assistance they can get. My heart goes out to them.
Well, first of all one of the complications of anti-depressants is thoughts of suicide, and many of our vets are committing suicide. But the doctors hand them out like candy. If someone is depressed, as our servicemen may be, chances are their problem is not chemical but instead due to real trauma they have experienced. It would be better, I think to let the guys talk it out, confidentially. And they should not have to pay for the privilege. They need to know that what they are feeling is natural and they are not freaks because they need help. What do they do now? The are written up as being a mental case and they are handed pills as if pills will cure mental trauma due to war.
For starters.
Sounds reasonable. I’ll add that we really should recalibrate our military approach for less pussyfooting around at the cost of greater wear and tear on our own soldiers.
1. I’m not a he.
2. You have no idea of my life experiences.
3. Everyone on the site is pushing their views, that is the purpose of the site.
4. I have no idea what your personal experiences are; therefore, I will not attempt to tell you how to live your life based on anonymous Internet posts.
Alrighty then, ‘she’ it is.
Of course we express our opinions and I acknowledged that you are entitled to yours. I will continue to call out comments that in anyway make light of a serious condition that many struggle with. Try to be a bit more compassionate in your comments and perhaps you won’t be perceived as cold and uncaring.
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