Posted on 01/18/2016 7:19:37 AM PST by Cboldt
My letter to Jason Savage, the executive diretor of the Maine GOP ...
There is evidence that Cruz is a naturalized citizen of the US. He was born in Canada, and the SCOTUS case of Rogers v. Bellei, if applied, would assign Cruz the status of naturalized citizen of the US.
I understand that certification of his qualifications emanates from the RNC, and that the Maine GOP is powerless to challenge the certification. A certification that is clearly false, as any competent court would find, if it found it had jurisdiction.
I also understand that I am voting, in the general, for an elector, ant that I am not voting for the eventual nominee of the party.
Nonetheless, what is occurring is in the nature of perpetrating a fraud on those who are considering the slate of candidate offered in the primary. The party should offer only qualified candidates.
What should be done about this, and what are you going to do about this?
Heh. You'll run into the legal reality that when you vote in the general, you vote for an elector. Don;t let 'em off the hook with that, you are voting in a primary, which is run directly on the candidates. There is no "elector" (of the electoral college) interposed between you and the candidate in a primary.
If the state's election resources are being used to conduct the election, the state has an interest.
The roadblock put up by these officials is that they are not competent to render a ruling, out of their jurisdiction, etc.
So, back to public notice using Rogers v. Bellei. Cruz is easily shown to be unqualified (the same as if he was a 13 year old, would they let a 13 year old run?). Now they KNOW he is not qualified, and they choose to do nothing about it. Abdication of duty. Total disregard for the public. Enabling and endorsing a falsehood.
I don’t expect anything from my SofS or the Attorney General. Especially since my AG endorses Cruz. I do hope though that they will go on record to me as to their stands. I really hope that a letter to the editor will at least make some people question it.
It is quite curious no matter how one looks at it.
By all appearances, our highly paid, sleeping at the gate guards seem to have had their hearts and minds elsewhere for some reason or motivation.
Seems like even a dull TSA agent on break wouldn't have missed something that obvious, right?
Curious...not sure what to make of that.
Usually mysteries at such a high level are irresistible, but odd how we now let so much go with so little interest and just a quick dismissal.
Yep, it's yet another mystery inside a mystery solved with riddle wrapped up by an enigmatic personality for which he was given a new house, staff, unlimited use of the plane and, as a preliminary bonus, a peremptory Nobel Peace prize.
It's quite a head scratcher, that's for sure...
Agree, but this thread is not about Rubio.
Jason Savage?
Is this cat that idiot Michael Weiner’s kin?
I am so glad the local talk radio put him away in the afternoon, I can’t stand that guy.
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It wasn't just superceded, the 1790 Act was actually repealed. The 1795 Act specifically states such.
“Superseded definition, to replace in power, authority, effectiveness, acceptance,
use, etc., as by another person or thing.”
You need to learn the meanings of words.
This is a most informative thread.
The OP is the usual Levin like post
No distinction between the rarely used term natural born and naturalized
And then discounts anyone who queries natural born as perpetuating a fraud
Even Cruz did this with the first 8 presidents comparison
Smart people are dodging and ducking and counter accusing
Natural born is mentioned twice by the founders in binding documents and anyone paying attention knows where
Everything else quoted is about naturalized etc
I confess no one knows for sure because Cruz is the first test
Had Obama actually been born in Kenya he would have been as well
The natural born deniers have to rest on the notion it never meant anything special or that revising various means by which citizenship was granted or born to negated the specific language natural born
Yet and this is where I see the problem
The term natural born used in Constitution pertaining to POTUS and the definition of that term in the subsequent 1790 act has never been super ceded by name
Never
Therein lies the rub
It is disheartening to see those who know better in media etc purposely ignoring that
For me personally it takes too much time to explain this to people not interested in empirical observation
It took me about half hour of research and I’m half as smart as Levin or Cruz
Some court will look at this if Cruz gets nomination and will have to rule on law or founders intent
And that is anyone’s guess
Living breathing versus literal I suppose or just simply bias
Courts are very political today
(Editorializing not directed at anyone in particular)
I have decided to call those who do not care about their birthright having the mind of Esau..he sold his birthright for a bowl of red pottage (lentils) And then lost the blessing as well. God did not much like Esau.
No act of Congress or a court can make Cruz natural born.
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No, YOU do...
repeal: revoke or annul (a law or congressional act)
You treat being obtuse as if it were a virtue LOL.
After all, Vattel insisted that the right of Citizenship flowed from the father.
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Glad to see you are finally getting on the right side of this discussion. Perhaps Ted can run for mayor of Havana.
That hasn't changed in the last 220 years to present day.
Congress had the chance in 2004 to reinstate 'natural born citizen' status to those born abroad to US citizen parents, but did not.
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